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His ban stands. I haven't seen it, but a lot of neutrals seemed to think it was a bit harsh. I can't help think the FA is trying to show backing for their incompetent officials rather than doing the game justice. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11679/7421960/Kompany-ban-stands
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« Reply #1 on: 10 January 2012, 03:39 PM » |
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It was a bit harsh because he got the ball and if memory serves, he didn't actually touch Nani (unfortunately). But he did jump in with 2 feet, so I guess he doesn't really have a leg to stand on.
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« Reply #2 on: 10 January 2012, 03:42 PM » |
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so I guess he doesn't really have a leg to stand on.
I was hoping the same could be said for Nani after the challenge but oh well.
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« Reply #3 on: 10 January 2012, 04:30 PM » |
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I don't see why there's been a fuss or why so many pundits said it was harsh.
Look, football has moved on a lot over the last couple of years - not necessarily for the better I agree.
BUT, we ALL know (as do players and managers) that if you go in with two feet you're probably going to get red carded regardless of whether you get the ball. It's irrelevant whether it was Rooney who pointed it out to the ref. Why did Kompany go in with two feet instead of one? It was stupid. He put himself into a position where he risked a red... and he got one. Had that been a United player on a Citeh player you can bet your bottom dollar Mancini would've been brandishing an imaginary card again.
There's no excuse whatsoever for a two-footed tackle. it's simply not a natural motion and anybody who plays, regardless of what level they play at, knows that if you jump in with two feet you do not have full control.
Having said all that, it's a shame he didn't break Nani's legs.
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« Reply #4 on: 10 January 2012, 04:58 PM » |
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Shocking decision. It wasn't even a foul imo.
The referee didn't even blow for a free kick at the time. It took him a couple seconds and Rooney moaning before he blows his whistle.
Foy is a terrible ref and the FA are as bad for backing him.
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« Reply #5 on: 10 January 2012, 05:00 PM » |
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I've said time and time again that I'd love to get a Premiership ref doing a college or university game. If a challenge like Kompany's had happened in one of those games, you'd just carry on playing.
Give it five years and football really will become a non-contact sport. It's getting sad to watch.
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« Reply #6 on: 10 January 2012, 06:25 PM » |
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Agree with Squidge that there seems to be a desire by the FA to back refs regardless.
That Wolves one ( Atwell ) was never a red, neither I believe was Barton's. And the Kompany one is just a joke as has been said. Did I miss something but when did making a fair challenge and winning the ball become a red?
The game is suffering because of all these poor decisions.
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« Reply #7 on: 10 January 2012, 06:47 PM » |
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It wasn't a poor decision. It's a bad rule, but the decision was correct. It's not a referee's fault if he has to enforce a poorly thought out rule.
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« Reply #8 on: 10 January 2012, 06:57 PM » |
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What is the rule then because it looked a perfectly good tackle to me?
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« Reply #9 on: 10 January 2012, 07:16 PM » |
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You're not allowed to go in two footed, show studs or jump into the tackle. Something like that anyway.
It's a load of bollocks.
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« Reply #10 on: 10 January 2012, 07:21 PM » |
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You're not allowed to go in two footed, show studs or jump into the tackle. Something like that anyway.
It's a load of bollocks.
Pretty much. And yes, it's crap.
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« Reply #11 on: 10 January 2012, 07:34 PM » |
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I've said time and time again that I'd love to get a Premiership ref doing a college or university game. If a challenge like Kompany's had happened in one of those games, you'd just carry on playing.
Even NANI carried on playing!! which pretty much summed the challenge. Only Rooney seemed to even stop and start appealing. The refereeing in this country is a disgrace- especially at the top level- they're paid as professionals and work a full-time schedule of which they I imagine have to spend a fair amount watching their matches, looking for ways to improve their statistics and keeping 'match fit' despite this there seems to be actual fcúk all consistency between the 10 or so referees and there also seems to be a lack of understanding for the rules of the game. If I was being paid as a professional referee, I'd know the rulebook back to front. There was no 'excessive force' in the tackle, it was a lunge but it was far enough away that by the time he reached the man both of his feet where under control and aiming for the ball...and he took the ball!
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« Reply #12 on: 10 January 2012, 07:52 PM » |
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Foy is a poor referee but I don't think he's at fault for Kompany's red card I think it's the laws of the game. It was a poor decision really, but I'm not sure he could have done anything else given the law.
I remember a few weeks ago Atwell had an awful game in the premiership and got relegated to a league 2 game between Crewe and Crawley. All my mates who are Crewe fans said Atwell had one of the worst games they have ever seen and were moaning left, right and centre about his performance.
My opinion with referees is that in general I think they still probably make less mistakes than some of the footballers on show on a regular basis. At least they get on and do they job even if they are awful at the moment. Look at Tevez, couldn't be bothered to get off the bench for City and he's getting paid 250,000 grand a week.
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« Reply #13 on: 10 January 2012, 08:26 PM » |
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If I was making the rules it was never a sending off,he never made contact with the player,won the ball cleanly and the player never even went to ground.But as has been mentioned previous according to the rules we have now it was a sending off offence,and seen as referees are not allowed to use common sense in their rulings its a bit of a no brain-er.He did go in two footed and you do lose control if you attempt to win the ball like that although I don't think there was any intention in his actions to harm the opponent,Ive seen worse tackles that could be described as ''legitimate''(is that the right word)what have caused a lot of damage and were you know the player has gone in to cause harm.But again that's the common sense issue,referees are being monitored all the time and now they get paid decent money the pressure to do everything by the book must be quite intense.When I first started to go the match you knew the ref was there but you hardly noticed him.sure there was the odd bad decision but generally players just accepted it and got on with the game as did supporters.We never knew the names of refs only the really top ones,whereas now when you go the game you make a point of looking to see who it is followed by moans and groans.It all comes down to the money whats now in the game I guess and the pressure what that creates.Shame
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