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Natasha Whittam
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« on: 12 December 2011, 12:31 PM » |
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It’s often said that suicide is the cowards way out, but is this necessarily true? Is taking your own life actually a brave thing to do?
Personally, I feel taking your own life really is the easy way out. Ok, your problems might be over but what about the people you leave behind? Perhaps you killed yourself to avoid a public scandal, perhaps you had huge debts, or perhaps you were a bit fed up and had nothing better to do, but it’s the people you leave behind that have to pick up the pieces. Can there be anything worse than walking into your home and finding a loved one with a bullet through his brain or swinging from the banister?
Personally, I don’t believe any personal problem justifies taking your own life.
Don’t get me wrong, I am fully behind people choosing to die if they have a terminal disease. If I knew I was going to die I would want to choose when and how. I shouldn’t have to sneak off to Switzerland to do it.
But killing yourself because your wife found out you sleep with transvestites, or you went overdrawn at the bank, or Owen Coyle gets a 10 year contract is pathetic, just face your problems head on and be thankful God gave you this chance at life.
Surely no one thinks suicide is brave?
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« Reply #1 on: 12 December 2011, 12:49 PM » |
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I feel sorry for anyone who feels they have no other option, but I do agree that there is a selfish element to it.
I was once on a train which was involved in a suicide - man jumped in front of it at a crossing. Now I felt sorry for the bloke who had no other recourse but to kill himself, but I felt worse for the poor train driver who had no chance of stopping and will have to live on with the image of the blood and guts that were splattered down the side of the carriages.
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ReebokTrotter
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« Reply #2 on: 12 December 2011, 01:02 PM » |
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HaHa. First depression, now suicide! What next, euthenasia ? I agree that suicide is quite often seen as a selfish act but some individuals are so so far gone when they kill themselves that nothing else matters for them other than putting an end to their personal misery. Dr David Kelly was a highly intelligent but private man. Once the Government leaked that he was our expert on WMD in Iraq his life changed immediately. He couldn't bear the thought of being the scapegoat for a useless government that betrayed him. He chose to take his own life to put an end to all the speculation and media intrusion. He actually committed suicide to spare his family from the constant press attention. Sometimes things happen in our lives which knock us for six and are extremely difficult to cope with. Some survive and by doing so they become stronger. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. Not everyone has the same mental fortitude. http://youtu.be/ICiFnQrHOrk
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« Reply #3 on: 12 December 2011, 01:05 PM » |
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i do worry about the "god gave you this chance" line cropping up more and more.
how can a doctor believe in god, and a highly highly intelligent one at that, one who, while studying, i assume medicine, has explored science in great depth.
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Natasha Whittam
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« Reply #4 on: 12 December 2011, 01:08 PM » |
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I was once on a train which was involved in a suicide - man jumped in front of it at a crossing. Now I felt sorry for the bloke who had no other recourse but to kill himself, but I felt worse for the poor train driver who had no chance of stopping and will have to live on with the image of the blood and guts that were splattered down the side of the carriages.
I agree about the poor train driver, why should he have to witness that. Don't feel sorry for the jumper though, feel sorry for all the people on the train who were late for work. If it had been my train, and he'd somehow survived, I'd have finished him myself.
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Natasha Whittam
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« Reply #5 on: 12 December 2011, 01:13 PM » |
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Dr David Kelly was a highly intelligent but private man. Once the Government leaked that he was our expert on WMD in Iraq his life changed immediately. He couldn't bear the thought of being the scapegoat for a useless government that betrayed him. He chose to take his own life to put an end to all the speculation and media intrusion. He actually committed suicide to spare his family from the constant press attention.
Ok, you say he killed himself to spare his family but some poor sucker still had to find his dead body. If he really cared surely he'd have thrown himself into a vat of dog food or something, where his body would quickly have been chopped up and canned.
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« Reply #6 on: 12 December 2011, 01:16 PM » |
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Ok, you say he killed himself to spare his family but some poor sucker still had to find his dead body. If he really cared surely he'd have thrown himself into a vat of dog food or something, where his body would quickly have been chopped up and canned.
Now I know you are not taking this subject very seriously! http://youtu.be/uwDKOWzEv2E
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« Reply #7 on: 12 December 2011, 01:20 PM » |
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I do take it seriously, I'm just pointing out the stupidity of people saying he "did it for his family" when someone had to go through the trauma of finding and identifying his body.
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« Reply #8 on: 12 December 2011, 01:34 PM » |
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Someone has to go through the trauma of identifying a body everytime someone dies. Whether it be natural causes or suicide the next of kin has to make a formal identification to the police.
I suspect they would find it much more difficult if the victim had chosen to throw himself into a vat for mincing dog food.
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« Reply #9 on: 12 December 2011, 01:45 PM » |
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I suspect they would find it much more difficult if the victim had chosen to throw himself into a vat for mincing dog food.
They'd be ok so long as they had the batch number. It's about time the government set up some sort of shooting range or something where suicidal people could go for a quick ending. The government could then pay someone to remove and dispose of the bodies, saving the families the trauma of identifying their loved ones. They could follow the McDonalds model. Research shows most suicide attempts are for attention seeking purposes. Why don't they just flash their bits in the local park or something?
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« Reply #10 on: 12 December 2011, 01:50 PM » |
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Or how about sending all suicidal people to Afghanistan to fight against the Taliban ? Tool them up properly and they are bound to take a few Taliban with them when they go.
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« Reply #11 on: 12 December 2011, 02:01 PM » |
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Or how about sending all suicidal people to Afghanistan to fight against the Taliban ? Tool them up properly and they are bound to take a few Taliban with them when they go.
Too expensive, and most would probably realise they don't actually want to die while flying over there. Better to do it quickly by firing squad before they change their mind and cost the NHS millions in failed suicide attempts.
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« Reply #12 on: 12 December 2011, 02:04 PM » |
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Fishing expedition
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I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem - ARTHUR CONAN DOYLE - Like fúck I have.
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« Reply #13 on: 12 December 2011, 02:13 PM » |
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Fishing expedition
no, no way, this is all genuine thoughts.
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Gloria Stitz
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« Reply #14 on: 12 December 2011, 02:46 PM » |
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I've never felt low enough in my life to ever even consider suicide, but I know enough ordinarily rationally thinking people that love their families dearly that have at least considered it, to know that suicide isn't just an option for softies.
And I can't think of a single method that would be anywhere near painless.
Thanks for reading,
Gloria.
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« Reply #15 on: 12 December 2011, 03:39 PM » |
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but I know enough ordinarily rationally thinking people that love their families dearly that have at least considered it You know lots of people that have considered suicide? Is it the effect you have on people Gloria?
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