Elhadj
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« Reply #150 on: 26 December 2011, 11:02 PM » |
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lets hope that he will make a good decision and sacked coyle before wolves game .
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« Reply #151 on: 26 December 2011, 11:08 PM » |
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I spoke to a mate at the game today who has 1 or 2 connecrtions in the club and he told me that Coyle signed a new contract last year. I was sure he was out of contract this summer but perhaps that explains the £7m Stuart Hall was on about which meant we couldn't afford to sack him?
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« Reply #152 on: 26 December 2011, 11:10 PM » |
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If it hasn't happened yet it's not going to happen.
Gartside has lost his appetite for the struggle. He has clearly decided it is easier - and cheaper - to rebuild in the Championship than try to sort out all of his disastrous errors while fighting relegation.
He's pathetic.
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« Reply #153 on: 27 December 2011, 10:35 AM » |
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If anyone thinks Coyle will be sacked is deluded, get over it, it aint gonna happen.
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« Reply #154 on: 28 December 2011, 02:01 AM » |
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The Daily Mail seems to think Coyle will be given another month to save his job. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2079127/Bolton-Owen-Coyle-month-save-job.htmlIf we sacked him today then we'd be running short on time to find a replacement who could keep us up. If we fail to get results against Wolves and Everton, combined with the fixtures we have coming up after that, there really would be no point in sacking him because we'll probably be cut adrift at the bottom of the league with only 15 games to go. |
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« Reply #155 on: 28 December 2011, 10:04 AM » |
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A Month would be a case of too little, too late.
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« Reply #156 on: 28 December 2011, 10:10 AM » |
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I would keep him regardless of what happens.
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« Reply #157 on: 28 December 2011, 11:20 AM » |
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I wouldn't have him, already outstayed his welcome.
A poor tactician, selects players out of form, plays them in wrong positions, bad use of use subs and only knows 4-4-2.
That won't help us in the lower leagues.
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« Reply #158 on: 28 December 2011, 12:04 PM » |
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I do think he is too nice in a situation like this, I don't know for definate but I would not be surpried if we was not in at all on Christmas day when even succesful sides like Spurs was in although probably half a day but still they was in. Things like Christmas parties and Days off on Christmas when we are struggling is not the kind of hard line message he should be portraying.
On Twitter his son even said he went down to the training ground to train with the players which was on the 23rd which is not exactly the kind of tough training we need ahead of 2 big home games in a short space of time.
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« Reply #159 on: 30 December 2011, 05:30 PM » |
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I don't see the point in sacking him to be honest. I can see his failings as a manager like everyone else like his tactical naivety and poor transfer signings but right now I really don't think anyone would touch us. Even at our supposed peak no-one like Mark Hughes or Martin O'Neill (the two names that are ALWAYS the first two mentioned) would come here. We are unfashionable, and capable at any moment of imploding like we have this season.
So now we are in the brown stuff and for all intents and purposes looking relegation squarely in the face, who would come here? Any manager with any talent wouldn't because he's on a hiding to nothing. The players wouldn't change too much, the fans mentality probably wouldn't neither. Who would you want in, Souness? Alan Curbishley? Bring back Megson?
Might aswell chuck what we have behind the lad now and see where it gets us. Remember we went down with Colin Todd twice. Once we responded with arguably our best season ever (98 points, 100 goals), the second we came within one Wembley performance of another instant return to the Premier League.
He might look out of his depth in the Premiership Coyle, but keeping solid might bode well for us next season if the worst does happen and we do go down. Sacking him now will have no positive effect in my opinion.
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« Reply #160 on: 30 December 2011, 05:31 PM » |
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I don't see the point in sacking him to be honest. I can see his failings as a manager like everyone else like his tactical naivety and poor transfer signings but right now I really don't think anyone would touch us. Even at our supposed peak no-one like Mark Hughes or Martin O'Neill (the two names that are ALWAYS the first two mentioned) would come here. We are unfashionable, and capable at any moment of imploding like we have this season.
So now we are in the brown stuff and for all intents and purposes looking relegation squarely in the face, who would come here? Any manager with any talent wouldn't because he's on a hiding to nothing. The players wouldn't change too much, the fans mentality probably wouldn't neither. Who would you want in, Souness? Alan Curbishley? Bring back Megson?
Might aswell chuck what we have behind the lad now and see where it gets us. Remember we went down with Colin Todd twice. Once we responded with arguably our best season ever (98 points, 100 goals), the second we came within one Wembley performance of another instant return to the Premier League.
He might look out of his depth in the Premiership Coyle, but keeping solid might bode well for us next season if the worst does happen and we do go down. Sacking him now will have no positive effect in my opinion.
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« Reply #161 on: 30 December 2011, 06:12 PM » |
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Well, I’m not sure I agree. On the one hand, you are probably right that we will not be able to attract a proven manager, and even if we did, he probably would not have the time or the resources to save us. Thus, spending the money to sack Coyle would probably not bring any short-term gain. Coyle also showed he could get Burnley promoted so maybe he could lead us through a rebuilding period in the Championship.
On the other hand, the tactical naïveté Coyle has shown this season has been just horrifying. There’s no reason to believe that his stubborn devotion to 4-4-2 is going to serve us better against Derby or Portsmouth than it has against Everton or Aston Villa. His signings have also been bad – in many cases unable to even get a game – so should we trust him with rebuilding the team with so many players out of contract? Wouldn’t it be better to get someone in now and give him some time to identify the strengths and weaknesses of the team?
Regardless of what we do about Coyle though, Gartside has got to go. The past few years have shown that he knows absolutely NOTHING about football and was simply very lucky to get Big Sam for 8 years. His inability to admit mistakes in a timely fashion could well destory the club. He cares more about his pride and his paycheck than he does about BWFC.
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« Reply #162 on: 31 December 2011, 05:12 PM » |
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I think it is clear that Coyle won't be leaving any time soon and certainly not before the end of the season if then. It's mainly about the money I suspect. We are going down and no new manager could stop the rot now. I dread to think what Coyle will do with the money we get from selling Cahill but he should be thinking about building a Championship side and getting rid of the deadwood - some of which he has signed himself.
It all went tits up when BSA left and I still blame Gartside for that. I didn't think it could get any worse than Lee and Megson and there was a false dawn under Coyle but now the awful reality has finally sunk in. We are not only going down but without a change of manager I do not expect us to be even competing for promotion next season. It's going to be a long 2012.
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« Reply #163 on: 31 December 2011, 06:02 PM » |
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Yeah Coyle isn't going anywhere and even if he was sacked I don't think the new man could do anything.
But I still want him to get fired, because that's what's supposed to happen when you suck at your job!
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« Reply #164 on: 31 December 2011, 06:28 PM » |
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Words on forums do not get managers the sack, empty stands maybe.
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Front row: Warwick Rimmer, John Byrom, Paul Fletcher, Garry Jones, Jimmy Meadows (Team Manager), Jim Redfern, Ian Seddon, Chris Duffy, Roger Hunt.
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« Reply #165 on: 31 December 2011, 06:46 PM » |
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But I still want him to get fired, because that's what's supposed to happen when you suck at your job!
I feel your pain! |
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« Reply #166 on: 01 January 2012, 05:09 PM » |
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He,s a useless fcuker he needs to go now.
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« Reply #167 on: 01 January 2012, 09:58 PM » |
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I'm with Rabz on this one. I'm of the view that Coyle will take us down, but I don't think any boss we could get would have a better shot at keeping us up.
Anyone who comes in will arrive to face 4 games that are almost unwinnable with the team in the place they are mentally, seeing his best defender sold from an already crap defense, having almost no money to change anything and generally without much hope. So you get the guy in only to be relegated and lose your "new manager buzz".
I actually think it's better to stick with Coyle. Our relegation odds don't change much, but then we can make the right appointment next season and change the atmosphere of the place without the "you were the boss who couldn't stop us going down" tag on anyone.
It's basically a choice between two shíte options, and I think sticking with Coyle is the better of the two.
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« Reply #168 on: 02 January 2012, 03:01 AM » |
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We should have got rid of Coyle in October, November at the latest. Now it is too late and the wisest choice has to be to stick with him through relegation if that is what (probably) pans out.
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« Reply #169 on: 02 January 2012, 05:56 PM » |
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i think we have got to stick with owen even though i think he will take us down,it will cost seven million to sack him and who would you bring in?nothing anybody can do unless any one from the middle east has another idea.
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« Reply #170 on: 08 January 2012, 06:25 PM » |
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Apparently Colin Wanker's been sacked by QPR. They haven't been doing well at all recently, only drew at MK Dons, and it took a stoppage time goal for them to get that. Still not as bad as us though...
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« Reply #171 on: 09 January 2012, 01:14 PM » |
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Apparently Colin Wanker's been sacked by QPR. They haven't been doing well at all recently, only drew at MK Dons, and it took a stoppage time goal for them to get that. Still not as bad as us though...
Good lord, please tell me that's not a roundabout way of you suggesting we should move for Colin... ?? |
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« Reply #172 on: 09 January 2012, 05:04 PM » |
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Good lord, please tell me that's not a roundabout way of you suggesting we should move for Colin... ??
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« Reply #173 on: 09 January 2012, 06:28 PM » |
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Not great with tactics. Not sure how he'll do with with the January signings. Don't see the point of sacking him now since his ever-positive presence in the dressing room keeps the players so very happy.
Actually don't see the point of paying 14 million in wages to sack his crew. Hopefully, he'll learn from his mistakes and act more quickly to make changes when necessary. He's also limited by injuries and the woeful budget. But...he really needs to start smartening up.
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« Reply #174 on: 09 January 2012, 06:43 PM » |
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Hopefully the success of 4-5-1 at Everton is the beginning of the turnaround. I know we've said that at least 3 other times this season but this is the first time he's changed the formation in the Premier League so maybe he's finally maturing.
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