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« on: 30 October 2011, 07:50 AM »

I honestly think we're going to get relegated this season. We are terrible. It's not just that we lose games but the way we are losing them. I really can't see us surviving this time. What does everyone else think?
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« Reply #1 on: 30 October 2011, 08:06 AM »

Without a doubt Owen Coyle has assembled the worst ever Bolton team to grace the Premiership. We are far worse than the team that finished bottom in 1995, at least they had a bit of fight. And as David said, it isn't just the defeats, it's the way we are getting hammered time and time again. Swansea controlled midfield yesterday despite us having five across the middle.

As things stand, with Coyle in charge, we are going down.

Despite all that we are not adrift at the bottom. Wigan look as bad as us, Blackburn not much better and one or two others like Wolves are struggling big time. If the board were brave and sacked Coyle today I believe we could stay up.

The squad is awful, and even Fergie would have trouble getting results with this shower of shite. But if a new manager could instill some sort of fight in the team I believe we'd pick up enough points to at least stay in touch with 17th place come January. With the right man in charge I feel he could bring in 5 or 6 loan signings and keep us up.

But long term we are fcuked. Owen Coyle has destroyed any future we had.
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« Reply #2 on: 30 October 2011, 08:31 AM »

If we lose the next two games Coyle has to go in my opinion. It might already be too late though. This is the worst Bolton team since Roy McFarland was here. I'm not sure anyone can save us.
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« Reply #3 on: 30 October 2011, 08:39 AM »

I'm not sure anyone can save us.

Allardyce would save us.
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« Reply #4 on: 30 October 2011, 08:47 AM »

Allardyce would save us.

I doubt he'd want to save us.
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« Reply #5 on: 30 October 2011, 08:49 AM »

I doubt he'd want to save us.

Perhaps.

But I have a feeling the thought of saving Bolton Wanderers from Owen Coyle would appeal to his ego.
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« Reply #6 on: 30 October 2011, 08:50 AM »

Its ok sacking coyle but who are we going to get?

We arent exactly an attractive club to take on are we,shíte players,no money,no ambition.

The best we will end up with is a sub standard championship manager,which we already have.

I really wanted coyle to succeed,and was willing to give him more time than most.But he has to go now,clearly the players he has signed arent good enough.

But who do we reallistically get in his place?

My bet would be Dowie!
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« Reply #7 on: 30 October 2011, 08:51 AM »

I want Coyle to suceed. Looks like he's going to get us relegated though. I have no idea who should replace him. We're fúcked. I might kill myself.
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« Reply #8 on: 30 October 2011, 08:52 AM »

Its ok sacking coyle but who are we going to get?

We arent exactly an attractive club to take on are we,shíte players,no money,no ambition.

The best we will end up with is a sub standard championship manager,which we already have.

I really wanted coyle to succeed,and was willing to give him more time than most.But he has to go now,clearly the players he has signed arent good enough.

But who do we reallistically get in his place?

My bet would be Dowie!

Would that be a novelty Halloween inspired appointment for the day?
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« Reply #9 on: 30 October 2011, 08:53 AM »

I want Coyle to suceed. Looks like he's going to get us relegated though. I have no idea who should replace him. We're fúcked. I might kill myself.

Get that net slag knocked up so your offspring can live on without you.
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« Reply #10 on: 30 October 2011, 08:59 AM »

Would that be a novelty Halloween inspired appointment for the day?

Its the only manager who i think we could afford and would want to come to us.

We would still get relegated though
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« Reply #11 on: 30 October 2011, 09:33 AM »

Bolton will still be an attractive job for lower league managers. Lee Clarke is the obvious choice, but there are others that have potential.

And the fact remains, could anyone actually do worse than Owen Coyle?
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« Reply #12 on: 30 October 2011, 09:38 AM »

Get that net slag knocked up so your offspring can live on without you.

It'd probably have a better life without me. It wouldn't have to be a Bolton supporter if I wasn't around.

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« Reply #13 on: 30 October 2011, 09:40 AM »

Bolton will still be an attractive job for lower league managers. Lee Clarke is the obvious choice, but there are others that have potential.

And the fact remains, could anyone actually do worse than Owen Coyle?

Do you not think he would be a massive gamble though? I have mentioned him so I am not disputing his ability but to throw somebody with no top level experiance as a manager into the sorry mess we are in would be very risky.

If we was to replace him I would prefer somebody with a bit more experiance like Curbishley or Walter Smith.  Somebody to kick some of these cúnts up the arse because it looks like Owen is struggling to do that because lets be honest the majority of people would have pretty much picked that team yesterday and they still let him down.

After going down to 10 men you do not expect your players to just give up and think fcúk it we are probably going to lose now so lets not fcuking bother.

I am as mad at the players as I am anybody else.
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« Reply #14 on: 30 October 2011, 09:44 AM »

I am as mad at the players as I am anybody else.

I am. They're not giving it 100% effort for 90 minutes every game. That's the least I expect.
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« Reply #15 on: 30 October 2011, 09:53 AM »

We have to change now, not in two or three more games. Trouble is who could keep us up with the pile of shite players we have now. It's easy to say four or five loan signings in January could do it, but I cant imagine any quality players wanting to come here. Unfortunately, the likes of Stoke, Sunderland and Wigan are more likely to get players wanting to play for them nowadays. We have got ourselves into a position that is now past worrying, more like terrifying. All the people saying we had four easy games coming up have to look at the bigger picture now. Three points from nine, Stoke away next. God help us. To cap it all, I live in a small village near Erding in Bavaria. There are a couple from Swansea in the same street. He is Rugby mad, but imagine the shíte I took for this latest defeat despite being about 1500 miles from Bolton :-(

I would be begging Allardyce to come back if I was the Chairman at this moment in time. Some good names have been mentioned like Curbishley and Clark, but I don't think they could sort out the players we currently have here unfortunately, and it would take only another three or four defeats before the fans started moaning again.  
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« Reply #16 on: 30 October 2011, 10:03 AM »

Stoke away next.

We're at home to Stoke. Not that it'll make any difference.
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« Reply #17 on: 30 October 2011, 10:22 AM »

With things how they are at the moment, yes we are going down no question about it.

Teams only have to nick the first goal and they have won the game as the team just collapse after letting one in.

The board have to have a list of names who they would want to bring in for the job and the 1st name on the pile for me is going to be Mark Hughes.

West ham won't let big sam go with them being 2nd in the championship and having the potential to turn them into a good premier league side with the right financial backing.

Maybe a foreign coach with new ideas?
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« Reply #18 on: 30 October 2011, 10:28 AM »

We're at home to Stoke. Not that it'll make any difference.

I don't know mate, I am optimistic of a point now I see that it is a home game !
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« Reply #19 on: 30 October 2011, 10:30 AM »

With things how they are at the moment, yes we are going down no question about it.

Teams only have to nick the first goal and they have won the game as the team just collapse after letting one in.

The board have to have a list of names who they would want to bring in for the job and the 1st name on the pile for me is going to be Mark Hughes.

West ham won't let big sam go with them being 2nd in the championship and having the potential to turn them into a good premier league side with the right financial backing.

Maybe a foreign coach with new ideas?

Mark Hughes would never come to us, he left Fulham because he felt they had no ambition and this is a club that spent £10.6 million on one player.

Only way he would come is if we just had him till the end of the season and offered him a big fat pay off for keeping us up.
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« Reply #20 on: 30 October 2011, 10:32 AM »

Hughes would want too much and with no money to spend I don't know if he could change much. We could try to get Phil Brown back. We would still be relegated but he could bring his Guitar along and have some good old sing songs before the 5-0 dickings we would get every week.
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« Reply #21 on: 30 October 2011, 12:18 PM »

It's easy to say four or five loan signings in January could do it, but I cant imagine any quality players wanting to come here. 

We don't really need quality, we need average players with a bit of passion.

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« Reply #22 on: 30 October 2011, 12:36 PM »

Chris Powell is doing a good job at Charlton.

Him or Di Matteo would be my choices.
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« Reply #23 on: 30 October 2011, 12:39 PM »

Chris Powell is doing a good job at Charlton.

Him or Di Matteo would be my choices.

The Di Matteo who was sacked by West Brom for playing too openly and having no defence?

From now on LG, you stick to the comedy and I'll do the football opinions.
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« Reply #24 on: 30 October 2011, 12:44 PM »

The Di Matteo who was sacked by West Brom for playing too openly and having no defence?

From now on LG, you stick to the comedy and I'll do the football opinions.

I just like his honesty - and i think he's got more about him that Coyle.

you ignored Chris Powell though.
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