Atmosphere at the ground

[Natasha Whittam]

A retarded monkey could do what that money-grabbing turd burglar Simon Cowell does so I'll leave that.

Then you must be a multimillionaire. Why not buy BWFC and insist all season ticket holders sing and dance?

[ReebokTrotter]

All true RT, it's public record.

I don't lie when it comes to my football career.

I would pay money to watch you shimmy past some Bhurka clad bird and put one in the back of the net. Were all the opposition wearing the Niqab and Bhurka ?

[LightningBolton]

Then you must be a multimillionaire. Why not buy BWFC and insist all season ticket holders sing and dance?

I would do if Eddie was willing to write off at least half the debt. Not much chance of that if he can get away with spending nothing & continue receiving interest. If I did you'd have to stop going to matches though because the atmosphere would be too noisy & exciting for you.

Anyway, it's really not difficult to sit & "judge" egotistical wankers & mentally vulnerable people but I am glad that you could only pick out such an insignificant part of my post. Obviously means you agree with the rest of it so my work on this thread is done! 

[Gazz]

It should do. These players are being paid top dollar to play in the biggest league in the world, if a bit of abuse effects them then they shouldn't be playing football.

Do you think the abuse Simon Cowell takes bothers him? Ditto Lady Gaga, ditto Gordon Ramsey. People at the top of any profession have to expect abuse, the reason they stay at the top is because they don't let it effect how they do their job.

You really are a retard.

Football is a game of confidence, doesn't help when clueless muppets like you attend.

Why stand at a football match? was the next stupid question you posted

Why do people stand in bars when there are seats? Some people like the choice, now get off your self awarded pedestal and get back to the gutter you rat! How dare you insult other people for having their own opinions.

[ReebokTrotter]

Gazz and Lightningbolt appear to be two new posters who can think for themselves. Take note Natasha.

[Sluffy]

Don't think you get irony Gazz?

I think in there somewhere Natasha is saying she's Bolton's biggest fan - and people at the top "have to expect abuse" - which is exactly what you give her and thus reinforcing her opinion of herself!

As for sitting / standing - it seems so simple to me.

As a youth, young bloke and middle-aged man - I enjoyed standing up - now I'm an old fart I enjoy (need!) a sit down.

If you are going to stand up, then simply have the decency not to stand in front of people like me who find it knackering to stand up for 90 odd minutes.

You probably don't give a toss right now about it but one day you will be an old git and you won't be so cocky about things when the boot is on the other foot!

[Gazz]

Sluffy, I prefer to stand but sit as that is the rule. What I am saying is people should be given a choice and for people like Nat to try and force her opinions that there is no reason to stand belongs in the dark ages.

How I was being cocky is beyond me but I respect your views

[Sluffy]

There is no choice at the moment Gazz - that's the law.

But we all know this particular law is not always enforced and I think if those who wanted to stand had a little bit more thought of where they did it sometimes, then perhaps more of a blind eye might be turned - but when they stand in front of old folk or kids then surely complaints to the stewards and / or club will follow - and the more the law will be enforced against everyone.

As for cockiness maybe I read more into your post than was actually there - if so please accept my apologies.

[Natasha Whittam]

Why stand at a football match? was the next stupid question you posted

Why do people stand in bars when there are seats? Some people like the choice, now get off your self awarded pedestal and get back to the gutter you rat! How dare you insult other people for having their own opinions.

You miss the point. You have a choice to stand in a bar which is fine, but at a football match you are supposed to sit down.

If you took your family to the cinema and some fat bloke stood up in front of you would you be cool with that? I suspect not.

[Natasha Whittam]

I would do if Eddie was willing to write off at least half the debt. Not much chance of that if he can get away with spending nothing & continue receiving interest. If I did you'd have to stop going to matches though because the atmosphere would be too noisy & exciting for you.

I can take or leave an atmosphere, but my point is that it doesn't do anything to make the players perform any better. If anything, it can be a negative experience for them.

[DaveBWFC]

But we all know this particular law is not always enforced and I think if those who wanted to stand had a little bit more thought of where they did it sometimes, then perhaps more of a blind eye might be turned - but when they stand in front of old folk or kids then surely complaints to the stewards and / or club will follow - and the more the law will be enforced against everyone.

Exactly. Old farts stick to the West Stand and people who want to stand go in the East Stand or get a seat on the back row somewhere. Problem solved.

[dhigson]

LOVIN THIS:

I think everyone just doing a low hum for the whole game would be pretty good.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

no crap songs but a nice noise.

[Weststander]

Exactly. Old farts stick to the West Stand and people who want to stand go in the East Stand or get a seat on the back row somewhere. Problem solved.

I'm all in favour of this segregation lark. Season ticket holders should be screened initially for IQ and general appearance. Fat people could have there own area too where they had to pay for two seats but slightly more comfort for them.

[dhigson]

MY 2P

I agree with this:

The atmosphere at the Reebok compared to Burnden is utter shite & will never be as good. The terraces allowed those who were lively & wanted to sing to congregate together whilst the miserable feckers who want to sit in silence could steer clear. Allocated seating means its more difficult to get big groups together who'd start off the chanting & there's always some deadwood nearby wanting to sit in silence & expecting everyone else to do the same.
I remember at Burnden even going 1 or 2 goals down we'd still chant & sing to try & spur the players on. Even 3 or 4 down we'd sing about how shite we were for a laugh & it created an enjoyable atmosphere. Nowhere near the amount of booing & abuse that the players are given at every opportunity for simply making a mistake now. And it does affect players. You can say it shouldn't & they don't want it to but it does affect them.
Fans of a lot of clubs have now come to expect so much that they are very quick to turn on the team when things aren't going well instead of being the "12th man" to help turn things around. I'm ashamed to say as a Wanderer that Bolton fans are now close to being the worst of the lot. Its easy to sing when you're winning but a true fan should get behind the team regardless & do everything they can to lift them.

And also this

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Welcome to BA.

You talk utter shite. I am sick of wankers saying we should support the team regardless. If the team put in a shite performance or are 3-0 down after half an hour they should get abuse. They are playing in a top league and being paid handsomely for it. At the top of any profession you have to expect abuse if you fcuk up.

If you're happy paying £30+ per match to watch overpaid players unable to pass 5 yards to a white shirt then that's your problem. It makes you a stupid prick.

I used to stand in the burnden terrace next to the fence and loved it but I could not imagine anything worse than standing with these ginger kids acting all football factory in the ESL as they would pi55 me right off - i appreciate my seat and my excellent view maybe its an age thing although i am only in my 30's!

I will start singing in my stand if I am in the mood and the people round me seem to clap the tune instead of singing the song (its almost like they feel embrrassed to sing the songs?) however I dont mind them clapping along in fact I think it is kind of cute.

Whilst it is not true that there was no booing at Burnden (PHIL NEAl) there is definately a lot more now and I do my fair share - 2 resons - 1) the wages now are miles higher than they was then 2) its the effort thing  - if i can see that the players are giving 110% i will support then all day long but when i get the impression that they dont care/cant be arsed/laughing and joking at 0-3 down this is when I (and the rest of us) get pissed off.

[DaveBWFC]

I'm all in favour of this segregation lark. Season ticket holders should be screened initially for IQ and general appearance. Fat people could have there own area too where they had to pay for two seats but slightly more comfort for them.

I think if we're going to do this we should add a smell test to the supporter screening. Anyone with personal hygene problems should have to sit in the South Stand Upper.

[Weststander]

We're on to something here. The ones that sell those draw tickets inside the ground that nobody buys could be used to sniff fans as they enter the ground and then discreetly refer those with a sharper odour to the appropriate section. Anyone over 30 wearing a replica shirt would also sit in the same stand as the smellies.

[dhigson]

Also

Seperate seating area for women please I suggest North Stand Upper

[DaveBWFC]

We're on to something here. The ones that sell those draw tickets inside the ground that nobody buys could be used to sniff fans as they enter the ground and then discreetly refer those with a sharper odour to the appropriate section. Anyone over 30 wearing a replica shirt would also sit in the same stand as the smellies.

I hope somebody from the club reads this thread.

If you're reading this Phil pm me and I'll help you sort the club out.

[Bazzabomb]

another one of those great atmospheres again today,it went at about 90 seconds in.

[hamspam]

My youngest daughter wasn't born in Bolton and has never lived in Bolton, she's 16 now and i don't suppose she has ever given Burnden Park a second thought.
  This Morning i bought some diesel on Manny rd and as we drove past Asda i said that is where Burnden Park was," What was it like dad ?"she asked.
Well i thought i summed it up perfectly,, It was old, filthy and it stunk but it frightend the shite out of the likes of Chelsea.

 " So why did they move?" she asked .  I could only repeat , It was old, filthy and it stank, but it scared the shite out of the likes of Chelsea.

[Natasha Whittam]

its the effort thing  - if i can see that the players are giving 110% i will support then all day long but when i get the impression that they dont care/cant be arsed/laughing and joking at 0-3 down this is when I (and the rest of us) get pissed off.

Totally agree.

I left early today. As soon as I saw Kevin Davies smiling and joking around with John Terry when they were waiting for a free-kcik to be taken I knew it was time to leave. We were 5-1 down at the time.

The players don't give a shite, why should we?

[LightningBolton]

I can take or leave an atmosphere, but my point is that it doesn't do anything to make the players perform any better. If anything, it can be a negative experience for them.

So if a good atmosphere has a negative impact on them what the hell does a bad atmosphere do to them?
I don't expect anything at shite like today but your idea of it always being like tennis with complete silence except for polite applause when we score is ludicrous. Imagine it being the first match someone goes to.
Why would they want to go back rather than just sitting quietly at home watching it?
Agree with Sluffy's point about people standing in front of people who want to sit. Not on.
Ewood Park used to be a complete morgue but recently allowed people below the away fans to sit where they liked & turn a blind eye to them standing. This allowed a group of them to get together to sing & start chants off. At our last match there the atmosphere was much better than it ever had been. Still shite but better.

[jayjay23]

It's mental to stand up when you have a seat. Why do people stand up, what benefit does it bring?

It is a bit mental to stand when there are seats I suppose but it's always more fun to stand at football.
Even if it makes no difference to on pitch events, having a good atmos at a ground definitely makes a difference to enjoyment levels for the fans and, perhaps, the players.

Also, a lot of players have said in the past that the fans getting behind them does lift their game. So if we could generate some Burnden Park atmosphere at the Reebok Morgue then perhaps the players would respond. It goes both ways though.

[jayjay23]

You've got no chance of getting a chant going there. Has the West Stand ever sung?

Spike you need to go East Upper with me. There are three seats next to me going spare. You get the atmos from the lower tier but you don't have to put up with Dave and his pals. Plus you don't have to walk all the way round the ground to get to your seat!

[jayjay23]

Give the West Stand a chance. Apparently, according to Weststander, they sing as much as the other parts of the ground.

Well when I used to sit in North Upper you could tell that ESL was the singing stand. The rest of the ground could be dead and you could see all the ESL not-rights bouncing up and down chanting - I wished the songs would spread round the ground but they never did. North lower now looks kind of lively tbh.