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« on: 17 February 2011, 12:34 AM »

Just another story where common sense seems to have lost again to Political Correctness.

Briefly, a boss finds one of his employers had stolen £850, so he grabs him and takes him down to the police station BUT whilst he was marching down there he slung a sign round his neck saying 'thief'.

Anyway the 'robber' sues the boss for hurt feelings - and an out of court settlement ends up with the boss paying him £5,000 plus all the court costs coming to another £29,000 - £34,000 in total!

He now as to sell his house in order to pay someone who robbed him!

Madness!

(Yes, I know the sign thing was wrong - but £34,000 wrong - and don't forget he was being robbed at the time!).

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20110216/tod-boss-forced-to-sell-home-for-thief-s-870a197.html

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« Reply #1 on: 17 February 2011, 12:37 AM »

He should've just snapped all his fingers and fired him. That's what you get for involving the filth.
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« Reply #2 on: 17 February 2011, 02:43 AM »

Had to laugh when i read it earlier,another one was a primary school boy getting a bollocking because he called a piece of chocolate cake a chocolate brownie
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« Reply #3 on: 17 February 2011, 07:51 AM »

Had to laugh when i read it earlier,another one was a primary school boy getting a bollocking because he called a piece of chocolate cake a chocolate brownie

That was not the story you idiot, 2 young lad's one named Wiener and the other Brown was ripping each other about each other's surname and then when one referred to the other as a Choclate Brownie, some wet lefty teacher complained.
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« Reply #4 on: 17 February 2011, 09:05 AM »

His local MP is campaigning on the shop owners behalf to try and sort this out. so I heard on the radio yesterday.
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« Reply #5 on: 17 February 2011, 09:20 AM »

And this one:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1356961/Humiliated-drug-dealer-sues-police-shame-leaflet-told-neighbours-jailed.html
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« Reply #6 on: 17 February 2011, 09:24 AM »

And the teacher in Wales who sprayed the kids who stunk of curry getting grassed up by a teaching assistant.
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« Reply #7 on: 17 February 2011, 09:25 AM »

And the woman who was handcuffed and arrested for helping herself to food that Tesco had thrown away.
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« Reply #8 on: 17 February 2011, 09:29 AM »

I'm hoping Dave sorts out all this PC bollocks, if he hasnt got time he could pay me £100k a year to do it for him. The world'd be a better place.
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« Reply #9 on: 17 February 2011, 10:11 AM »

And the teacher in Wales who sprayed the kids who stunk of curry getting grassed up by a teaching assistant.

I think you would spend a lifetime spraying all of them who smell like curry.
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« Reply #10 on: 24 February 2011, 09:58 AM »

And removing Acid Drops from sweet shops in case they offended the residents of Bhopal. Anyone remember ' Bhopal Fruits' with the catchy slogan, ' Made to make your eyes water' ?.  Starburst, my arse.
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« Reply #11 on: 24 February 2011, 10:14 AM »

Bhopal?

Where Union Carbide killed more Indians than John Wayne.
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« Reply #12 on: 24 February 2011, 04:22 PM »

I'm hoping Dave sorts out all this PC bollocks, if he hasnt got time he could pay me £100k a year to do it for him. The world'd be a better place.

It'll never happen, not anymore. While there's skint bin dippers looking for anything they can sue for just to make a quick quid and save them having to work, PC will always have to exist to combat it. Most were brought up in the way that if you have a problem, deal with it and move on. But now it seems a lot more are brought up to say that if you have a problem, look for the nearest person you can claim from about it.
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« Reply #13 on: 25 February 2011, 02:17 PM »

Why are Sikhs allowed to ride motorbikes without helmets?  It's fcuking disgusting what this country has become; one rule for them another for us!  If I want to risk getting my head caved in in a motorcycle accident I should be given the choice.  Madness.
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« Reply #14 on: 25 February 2011, 02:36 PM »

So hopefully they don't survive when they fall off.
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« Reply #15 on: 27 May 2011, 10:53 PM »

Another example of madness!

Burglar who claimed jail sentence infringed his children's human rights is freed

A burglar was freed from jail today - after judges ruled his five children would suffer as much as he would if he remained behind bars.

Wayne Steven Bishop, 33, was serving an eight-month sentence, imposed at Nottingham Crown Court in April after he admitted burglary and dangerous driving.

But he is the sole carer of his five children - aged between five and 13 - for five nights a week and claims it was not in their 'best interests' that he stay in prison

His ex-partner looks after them the remaining two days.

His QC, Ian Wise, told Mr Justice Maddison and Mr Justice Sweeney at the Court of Appeal that the court had not properly taken into account the effect on the children.

Since his incarceration, they have been cared for by his sister during the week and his ex-partner, but the situation has been difficult for all parties.

The sister is a single parent with seven children to look after already - five of them her own - and she lives seven miles from the schools which her nieces and nephews attend.

Pointing to Article 8 of the Human Rights Convention - which guarantees respect for family life - Mr Wise said judges should have the well-being of children at the forefront of their minds when their sole carer might be sent to prison.

'We submit that the judge erred in law in failing to have proper or any regard to the children that he was the sole carer for,' he told the appeal

'The interests of the children should be central to the decision-making process where children are affected by a decision.'

Mr Justice Sweeney questioned whether it had been in the children's best interests for their father to be out committing burglary and asked who had been looking after them at that time.

But the judges together concluded that not enough attention had been paid to the effect that Bishop's incarceration might have - and is actually now having - on his children.

'It is apparent that the position of the children is a highly unsatisfactory one in the absence of the appellant himself,' said Mr Justice Maddison.

He continued: 'It is important that criminals should not think that children can provide some sort of licence to commit criminal offences with impunity.

'All of that said, however, we have to be aware of the highly unsatisfactory and difficult situation faced by the children and those now doing their best to look after them.

'We have come to the conclusion that the appropriate course is to allow the appeal and to suspend for a period of two years the consecutive sentences which were pronounced by the judge.'

Bishop, of Clifton, was prosecuted after he was caught driving away from the scene of a burglary at Mansfield Rugby Club in the early hours of September 2 last year.

He and three other men raided the premises, taking only some chocolate, before he and one of his accomplices drove off in a transit van.

Bishop clipped a police vehicle and drove through red lights before he eventually drove up a dead-end street and was arrested. He admitted all charges.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391512/Burglar-claimed-jail-sentence-infringed-childrens-human-rights-freed.html#ixzz1Nalmkyqq


So he's got a free pass to go out thieving then until the kids are grown up - or does he father a few more for us the taxpayer to look after?
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« Reply #16 on: 27 May 2011, 11:02 PM »

So we have a situation in which both instances have negative effects and the judges have ruled on which they find to be the least negative course of events.  Nowhere does it say that other facilities will not be made for his punishment.  I'd be interested to read the revised sentence.
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« Reply #17 on: 27 May 2011, 11:27 PM »

Two-year suspended sentence.

http://www.thelawpages.com/court-cases/Wayne-Steven-Bishop-6902-1.law

What a deterrent eh!
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« Reply #18 on: 27 May 2011, 11:32 PM »

2 years suspended for stealing some chocolate and reckless driving.  Obviously it's not desirable, but when measured against the effect on the children it may be valid.  Not knowing the specifics it's hard to say.
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« Reply #19 on: 27 May 2011, 11:40 PM »

I don't disagree but I would imagine the original judge must have had reason for the sentence and I'm guessing it was because of the defendant's prior criminal history.

We've long ago stopped hanging people for theft, so I would imagine for him to receive his original sentence suggests that he had previous - and a lot of it!
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« Reply #20 on: 27 May 2011, 11:42 PM »

I have no idea whether he has previous.  It sounds like he stole chocolate from a Rugby Club, for which he got 4 months.  The other 4 were for dangerous driving.  So whilst I don't want to trivialise anything, it's not like they're releasing a dangerous offender.
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« Reply #21 on: 27 May 2011, 11:49 PM »

Did I say he was?

Do you really think a judge would sentence someone to jail for 4 months just for stealing some chocolate as a first offence?

I know you like to argue about anything but you’re just getting ridiculous now.
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« Reply #22 on: 27 May 2011, 11:52 PM »

No, Sluffy.  What I am saying is that we don't have enough information to make the judgement of whether the appeal verdict was, to us, valid.  After all, just as you say the first judge wouldn't have sentenced him so severally, I could say the appeal court wouldn't have released him if he has serious previous.

We simply don't know.
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« Reply #23 on: 28 May 2011, 12:05 AM »


Well we don't know but obviously the courts do!!!

The first judge wouldn't have made the original sentence if he didn't think he merited it would he?

The appeal judges did not question the length of the sentence but allowed the appeal on Article 8 of the Human Rights Convention - ie his children would suffer if he went to jail.

As one judge pointed out, the offender wasn't too fussed about their best interests when he went out robbing!

It's almost certainly cheaper for him not to go to jail and the kids not to go into care but that's not the point - where's the deterrent of him or anyone else with kids going out stealing - and what about the Human Rights of those who have their stuff nicked and damaged?
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« Reply #24 on: 28 May 2011, 12:11 AM »

Article 8 isn't a sweeping defence.  That is to say, I suspect (*edit* understatement is employed here) they wouldn't have let him out had it been a murder conviction.

All the other stuff, the claims he 'must' have prior and all the stuff the courts must know, it's simply supposition on your part.  It may be true, but it doesn't alter that the appeal court has considered his appeal valid.  It may be that his original defence didn't present that defence, and thus the original judge was not permitted to consider it.

They justices are clearly aware that some people will immediately start saying this will mean people think kids mean they won't go to prison; which is why they have said that is not the case.

You are questioning the judgement based upon uninformed assumptions.  I just don't see the point.  If we don't have all the information, and the information we do have doesn't show he's a danger to anyone, then what are we supposed to make the judgement on?
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