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« on: 05 January 2011, 12:56 PM » |
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If so, what are you backing today?
I fancy these:
Kempton:
4.05 Kuala Limper (11/8 Best Odds Guaranteed with B365, Boyles, Betfred or Corals) won
Lingfield:
12.55 Orchard Supreme : 2nd at 8/1
1.55: Al Jaadl also 2nd! Got caught right on the line!
Southwell:
3.10 Timesawastin : 3rd
For those not sure what BOG is: if you take for example the 5/1 on the first race and it wins at 7/1, they'll pay you at 7/1. If it wins at 3/1, they pay you at 5/1. BOG is the minimum they'll pay , but it can drift.
You can also just punt it on Betfair, if you wish.
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Everybody is a genius. But, if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will spend its whole life believing that it is stupid
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« Reply #1 on: 05 January 2011, 12:57 PM » |
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Why are the horses doing different times Traf?
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"Just when they think they have all the answers, I change the questions".
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« Reply #2 on: 05 January 2011, 12:58 PM » |
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Pardon?
I don't understand your question.
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Everybody is a genius. But, if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will spend its whole life believing that it is stupid
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« Reply #3 on: 05 January 2011, 12:59 PM » |
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You might aswell have typed all that in chinese because I haven't a clue when it comes to odds and these so called BOGs. Why are the horses doing different times Traf?
Because they are running at different times in different races? |
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« Reply #4 on: 05 January 2011, 01:00 PM » |
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BOG'S = Best Odds Guaranteed
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« Reply #5 on: 05 January 2011, 01:04 PM » |
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I like a bit of gambling but I'm useless at betting on horses. I don't really follow them much so just have a quick look at their form and then usually back one Dettori, McCoy or someone I've heard off is riding.
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« Reply #6 on: 05 January 2011, 01:05 PM » |
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BOG'S = Best Odds Guaranteed
I even wrote that in the OP. |
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« Reply #7 on: 05 January 2011, 01:15 PM » |
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Why are the horses doing different times Traf?
LOL. |
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Why do we experiment on animals when there are so many lawyers ?
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« Reply #8 on: 05 January 2011, 01:24 PM » |
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I'm not a gambler myself but plenty people are. I understand the simple stuff, for instance - Lingfield:
1.55: Al Jaadl (3/1 BOG Betfred) There is a horse running at the 1.55pm race at Lingfield called Al Jaadl, which if you bet a pound on, and it wins, you will get £3 back. (obviously there are other horses running in the race too - but Al Jaadl is the one Traf is tipping to win it). I'm lost with the more technical stuff done on the computer - which I think is the way most people do it these days. I know enough that you open an internet account - I think you can do it directly with a bookies - Traf as listed some above such as Betfred and Corals - OR you can open an account with Betfair which is betting against other people on that site (rather than a bookmaker). You can of course have internet accounts with both a bookmakers and Betfair at the same time if you want. I think the big difference between the two is that on Betfair you can also (if you want) bet AGAINST the horse winning - you bet on it to LOSE! I'm lost with the odds on the internet - although I don't think they are hard to grasp if you are interested in learning them. If people are interested in betting (not necessarily just on horse betting), I will happily sticky this thread. I guess I better add something like you can of course lose money as well as win money when betting - so act responsibly! |
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« Reply #9 on: 05 January 2011, 01:56 PM » |
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Yes, your home is at risk if you set to fire to it etc etc.
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« Reply #10 on: 05 January 2011, 02:09 PM » |
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I don't get the horses.
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« Reply #11 on: 05 January 2011, 04:48 PM » |
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1 winner
2 x 2nds
1 x 3rd today.
4 pts staked
2.38pts returned
Loss of 1.62 pts on the day.
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« Reply #12 on: 05 January 2011, 04:53 PM » |
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Gambling is a mugs game. I'll be losing £5 as usual at the Reebok tonight.
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« Reply #13 on: 05 January 2011, 07:31 PM » |
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It's not a mugs game if you know what you're doing.
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« Reply #14 on: 05 January 2011, 11:21 PM » |
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I'm a mug. £5 on Matt Taylor first goal scorer and 4-0. Odds of 160/1.
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« Reply #15 on: 06 January 2011, 12:05 AM » |
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The nil bit of your bet means you're a mug straight away.
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« Reply #16 on: 06 January 2011, 12:09 AM » |
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The nil bit of your bet means you're a mug straight away.
Law of averages says we must get more than 2 a season. You're right though I'm a mug. |
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« Reply #17 on: 06 January 2011, 12:12 PM » |
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2.10 Huntingdon: Mr Jay Dee E/W (currently 14/1) 2nd at 16/1  2.20 Southwell: Gordy Bee (currently 9/2) also 2nd |
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« Reply #18 on: 06 January 2011, 12:17 PM » |
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From experience Traf knows what he's doing and is good at it... BUT its always at your own risk  |
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« Reply #19 on: 06 January 2011, 01:25 PM » |
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Without blowing smoke up Trafalgar's arse, he does have a good track record with the gee gees.
You could do worse than follow his tips if you like a dabble.
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I have learned never to ridicule any man's opinion, however strange it may seem - ARTHUR CONAN DOYLE - Like fúck I have.
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« Reply #20 on: 06 January 2011, 01:27 PM » |
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Cheers, lads, but I do wish Squishy wouldn't use my real name on here.
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« Reply #21 on: 06 January 2011, 03:47 PM » |
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I keep hitting the crossbar.
Both came second today!
2pts staked
The 0.5pts E/W on Mr Jay Dee returned 2.1pts for a small profit of 0.1pts for the day. Still early days, though.
After 2 days:
6 horses = 6pts staked
1 winner
5 placed
Loss of 1.52pts.
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« Reply #22 on: 06 January 2011, 03:49 PM » |
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How come you're down? Did you not back them all each way?
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« Reply #23 on: 06 January 2011, 03:56 PM » |
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No, they're all straight win bets, unless stated otherwise.
It's only a small loss, which is manageable. The methods I use to find my bets often have quite long runs of losers, but they will make profit in the long run.
My strike rate is around the 25% mark normally and tends to generate approx 1.2pts profit per bet. So, since posting on here, I've had 6 bets: my averages would suggest 1 winner from the next 2 bets and I'll be 9.6pts up after them. It doesn't always work that way, of course, but over a longer time frame it tends to.
I derive the bulk of my income from the horses, but backing them to win only forms a small part of my betting activity. Most of my work is done finding horses that are underpriced that aren't as good as the market suggests and I then back them to lose (ie I lay them).
I won't even begin to try and explain how the laying procedure works on here, I reckon it'll be too complicated, as many of you don't even bet at all.
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« Reply #24 on: 06 January 2011, 03:59 PM » |
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Laying bets basically means you're being the bookie?
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