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« on: 16 September 2010, 12:34 PM » |
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Anybody think the Carling cup would be made a bit more exciting if teams who qualified for Europe weren't included in it?
I know its a bit far fetched and its never going to happen but it would give teams like us and similar to us a reasonable chance of winning a trophy. It would be an even competition as the top 6 wouldn't be involved which would leave the rest of the 14 and lower division sides left to try and win it a swell as a European place?
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« Reply #1 on: 16 September 2010, 12:49 PM » |
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I think that would devalue it even more.
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« Reply #2 on: 16 September 2010, 01:33 PM » |
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So, qualifying for Europe would then preclude you from another chance to re-qualify the season after?
So, we should punish teams for being successful?
Genius. You should work for the FA, or maybe you already do. The first syllable of your username is quite apt.
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« Reply #3 on: 16 September 2010, 01:38 PM » |
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Obviously it would need to be tweaked but as i said its just a thought.
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« Reply #4 on: 16 September 2010, 01:41 PM » |
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I doubt the teams who qualified would appreciate that to be honest Noblet. It just means we get more satisfaction when we win a trophy; knowing the calibre of teams we had to beat to get to the finishing line.
On aside note, can we please be rid of this stupid "fair play" league. What a ridiculous rule.
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Natasha Whittam
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« Reply #5 on: 16 September 2010, 01:44 PM » |
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Anybody think the Carling cup would be made a bit more exciting if teams who qualified for Europe weren't included in it?
I know its a bit far fetched and its never going to happen but it would give teams like us and similar to us a reasonable chance of winning a trophy. It would be an even competition as the top 6 wouldn't be involved which would leave the rest of the 14 and lower division sides left to try and win it a swell as a European place?
I think you are onto something here but I'd go one step further. What about only allowing teams who play in Bolton enter the competition? I reckon we'd at least get to the final. |
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Fair play to you then if you're willing to share your knickers with a willy.
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« Reply #6 on: 16 September 2010, 01:50 PM » |
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What teams that haven't qualified for Europe this year would beat us easily? Everton are probably the strongest team but there isn't much difference in quality between the remaining teams in the premier league?
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dh1985
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« Reply #7 on: 16 September 2010, 01:51 PM » |
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On aside note, can we please be rid of this stupid "fair play" league. What a ridiculous rule.
The Times recently complied a table which combined the amount of money spent by a club on wages, transfer fees etc with the amount of points you earned in the league (compared with what you'd expect to get considering your outgoings). Naturally, teams like City who spent £100m+ not to mention similar in wages all to get 5 points were rock bottom. I'd much prefer a system like that to determine European qualification, opposed to the fair play rule (if we are going to have a stupid system which rewards teams regardless of where they finished in the league). Probably beacuse Bolton were top!  |
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« Reply #8 on: 16 September 2010, 01:57 PM » |
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The Times recently complied a table which combined the amount of money spent by a club on wages, transfer fees etc with the amount of points you earned in the league (compared with what you'd expect to get considering your outgoings). Naturally, teams like City who spent £100m+ not to mention similar in wages all to get 5 points were rock bottom. I'd much prefer a system like that to determine European qualification, opposed to the fair play rule (if we are going to have a stupid system which rewards teams regardless of where they finished in the league). Probably because Bolton were top! Not a bad shout actually that Dh! It's just ridiculous the fair play rule. I thought they were taking the pigeon when they said if Fulham won the final last year; then Burnley would get a one way ticket to the big time! |
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« Reply #9 on: 16 September 2010, 02:06 PM » |
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Who did get that place in the end then? I thought Burnley would get it because they were the highest in the fairplay league after Fulham who, if they won the cup, would have a different places themselves as cup winners. But they're not in Europe on merit due to losing the finaL and not finishing high enough in the league, nor are they in Europe due to fair play. Neither are Burnley. Who got the place?
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« Reply #10 on: 16 September 2010, 02:07 PM » |
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Nobody got it.
England didn't get the place after all.
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« Reply #11 on: 16 September 2010, 02:11 PM » |
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He must have gone somewhere! The Cup isn't a team light 'cos Fulham bottled it. I bet it went to some shíte team in a nothing league.
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« Reply #12 on: 16 September 2010, 02:15 PM » |
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The 3 places went to:
Gefle IF, Sweden
Randers FC, Denmark
MyPa-47, Finland
England was ranked 7th overall, behind Norway, Scotland & Ireland.
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« Reply #13 on: 16 September 2010, 02:22 PM » |
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Footballing powerhouses them lot! Pillars of europe's elite. Cheers for the info anyway.
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« Reply #14 on: 16 September 2010, 02:34 PM » |
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« Reply #15 on: 16 September 2010, 06:53 PM » |
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Not a fan of this idea. The magic of the cup is being able to go up against the bigger and better sides that should beat you by a cricket score and shocking them to knock them out. The 3-2 win at Anfield springs to mind in 2003/4. If the big clubs choose to overlook it in favour of bigger competitions, then thats their call, but I wouldn't see the point if everybody wasn't involved.
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« Reply #16 on: 16 September 2010, 08:19 PM » |
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We are the club who played a reserve side in the last 32 of the UEFA Cup. We don't want to win anything.
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Fair play to you then if you're willing to share your knickers with a willy.
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« Reply #17 on: 16 September 2010, 08:45 PM » |
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We are the club who played a reserve side in the last 32 of the UEFA Cup. We don't want to win anything.
Last 16* |
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« Reply #18 on: 16 September 2010, 11:43 PM » |
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And last 32.
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« Reply #19 on: 17 September 2010, 06:09 AM » |
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And last 32.
I know. I just thought it would be more relevant mentioning that we got to the last 16. |
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« Reply #20 on: 17 September 2010, 02:08 PM » |
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I was just being pedantic.
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« Reply #21 on: 17 September 2010, 11:20 PM » |
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We are the club who played a reserve side in the last 32 of the UEFA Cup. We don't want to win anything.
Nor did we deserve to after that farce. |
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