Stay or Go? - Muamba

[Howfen White]

£10m? Sell sell sell! In fact, tell them we'll do a swap deal for either De Jong, Kompany or Gareth Barry, they don't need four defensive midfielders so we'll take one of theirs. If not, we'll have Stephen Ireland.

Muamba has shown his capability as a defensive midfielder but his pure shitness in attack. I rate him for what he does well but if someone comes in with £10m, I would take it and run.

[Martinbwfc]

This is a joke thread started by a mod with too much time on his hands.

City signing Muamba? Ha ha.

Some of you are so gullable it's scary.

Sorry to pull you up on something so trivial,but I would have thought a worldly educated person would be able to spell GULLIBLE,correctly,check your dictionary,maybe you went to the Sharps house of education.

[whitermy]

who gives a shíte about spelling .sell sell sell

[bigsamsarmyusa]

I'd sell for 10mil and a player or push it up to 12-15mil for 'just' cash.

If it is bogus or they don't want to pay that kind of money, get Cahill and Muamba signed onto an extended contract so that we don't lose them on the cheap next summer.

[mattya93]

Yaya toure has struck a deal with a premier league club, most likely manchester city and will join a premier league club before the world cup.  Rest easy,  Muamba is going nowhere.

[jimbo_bwfc]

Maybe the daily star got Toure and Muamba mixed up. Easy mistake to make, they both play in midfield, they are both black, they both play for amazing teams beginning with B, they both have two legs.


Actually I have a sneaky suspision Yaya Toure might be going to United.

[Natasha Whittam]

I saw the story elsewhere - so discussing it doesn't make me "gullable", I think.

Ha ha, so because the "story" was in a newspaper or on a website it must be true?

Muamba is crap at best, I wouldn't believe it if you told me Torquay wanted to sign him.

[mattya93]

Ha ha, so because the "story" was in a newspaper or on a website it must be true?

Muamba is crap at best, I wouldn't believe it if you told me Torquay wanted to sign him.

Thats a bit harsh, I admit he definitely isnt the best at shooting, however under coyle his passing has improved, and he has the most energy in our team by a mile, is a great tackler, and can do some surging runs from box to box.  If he was that crap how did he get in the England under 21 set up, and have the tournament of his life last year?  He has been one of our most improved under Coyle, and his ability to keep the likes of Gerrard very quiet, speaks dividends about both his energy and his abilities as a defensive midfielder.  On the other hand, yes his shooting is very similar in ability to that of Cilla Black in a london marathon.

[Natasha Whittam]

My point is City are trying to buy the best players in the world, not players that only just get in relegation threatened teams.

And while I agree with you that there was an improvement under Coyle, you can't just dismiss the previous 18 months of bobbins under Megson.

[Weststander]

He did improve but let's face it, he could only go one way.

U 21s count for feck all. Nicky Hunt was a mainstay for a while and the majority end up playing for QPR or Brentford.

[Keegan]

Ha ha, so because the "story" was in a newspaper or on a website it must be true?

Muamba is crap at best, I wouldn't believe it if you told me Torquay wanted to sign him.

I never suggested the story was true, just worth discussing.

[Gareth Williams]

Stay, just a little bit longer!!

[Turkish trotter]

Stay, just a little bit longer!!

Excellent song that. The Hollies , I remember them well.

[Shaft]

I don't believe that City would be after Muamba. Muamba has hardly been fantastic at Bolton and they have the money to get top players. They have De Jong, Barry and Vieira as it is.

I agree with Aaron, I don't see anyone coming in for Cahill or Muamba but I would welcome it if they did. I don't think we would miss either of them that much - unlike when Anelka left. The money would be good to strengthen the team.

I wouldn't want to see Muamba leave as he is young and will improve a lot and is a player we can have in the team for the next 10 years, but every player has a price and Muamba would have to leave if offered anything like £10m for him.

[Martinbwfc]

I don't believe that City would be after Muamba. Muamba has hardly been fantastic at Bolton and they have the money to get top players. They have De Jong, Barry and Vieira as it is.

I agree with Aaron, I don't see anyone coming in for Cahill or Muamba but I would welcome it if they did. I don't think we would miss either of them that much - unlike when Anelka left. The money would be good to strengthen the team.

I wouldn't want to see Muamba leave as he is young and will improve a lot and is a player we can have in the team for the next 10 years, but every player has a price and Muamba would have to leave if offered anything like £10m for him.

What he said.

[Ad85]

Although muamba has improved alot he is still a center mid that can only tackle. His passing is bad his shooting shocking. If you want to be top half in the prem you can't afford to have players who can't pass in a 4 man midfield. He's ok for playing in a 5 man midfield. Don't get me wrong, a do think most of the time he does a decent job for us but I often wonder wether we would be better going forward if someone different was there. Some ppl saying he's worth 15mil, you could get Scott Parker for that with change and I know who I would prefer.

[Darequam]

I think its obvious to everyone dat Muamba aint a perfect def midfielder, but has the ability to become a decent one if he can improve on shots and passing, bearing in mind dat he is an integral part of the team, I think selling him with that price tag or more and using d money to fund other transfers would solve more problem in the team than keeping him.

[Howfen White]

I think its obvious to everyone dat Muamba aint a perfect def midfielder, but has the ability to become a decent one if he can improve on shots and passing, bearing in mind dat he is an integral part of the team, I think selling him with that price tag or more and using d money to fund other transfers would solve more problem in the team than keeping him.

I hope I'm wrong and let me reiterate I am a Muamba fan (because of his defensive abilities) but he is clearly hopeless in attack. I mean, there are some players that are bad in attack like Elmander for example, but even with him you get a slight hope that he will put it in the back of the net, unlike Muamba where you're pretty much standing up with your arms out waiting to catch it if you're on Row ZZ in the South stand upper before he's even taken a swipe at it.

I suppose he's that bad that he couldn't possibly be any worse and the only way he can go is improve, but he's that bad at it, even if he did improve, would it be good enough for the Premier League? In my opinion, no. That's why I think Coyle should lay off trying to make him into an attacker and let him sit in front of the defence and win the ball, which he is brilliant at. Let the attacking be done by someone else.

[mjs199714]

we wont get an offer for 10m for muamba.

 if more than 15m yea but lower no

[Howfen White]

we wont get an offer for 10m for muamba.

 if more than 15m yea but lower no

We won't get one full stop

[dh1985]

We won't get one full stop

Got to agree with that. I also think the same applies to Cahill!

[Chris Rabz]

Which I'm fine with to be honest, while it would be nice to have all those shiny millions in the bank for Cahill (and, urm, Muamba) but the way we are going so far we would struggle to convince any high-valued but also good players to come here. So then we would just lose two of the only assets we have. I'd rather keep the nucleus of the side, albeit have less funds to play with, but buy cleverly and add to what we already have.

[dh1985]

Fair point, although if we are to keep them then we need to get their contracts extended and quickly. While 2 years seems like a decent length of time, next summer their value would have considerably reduced and in 18 months they can sign pre-contract agreemnts with other clubs.

While I agree that we want to keep the nucleus of the side, we don't want to keep it for two years only for it to leave on a free.

We saw that with Ben Haim and Faye. One left on a free and the other left for £2m as he was in the last year of the contract. The backbone of our defence gone for £2m. Apparently Coyle is having talks with Cahill as to his future. I hope those talks involve a new, long term deal or I'd be tempted to pimp him out to several London clubs this summer.

[Chris Rabz]

The trouble with extending deals is that if they are on high-end wages and then next season turn out to be rubbish (like Muamba was in his first season) then we are stuck with a big-earner we don't want, and nobody else will buy. I think two years is a good length of deal because if they do turn out to be poor in 12 months we only have another 12 months before we can cut him loose... if they are good though we can extend it for another year.

[dh1985]

That's all well and good assuming that they're going to be poor, but you just said that they're the nucleus of our team. i.e key players.  If we're concerned about their ability and consistency next season,  surely that is another reason to sell and sell now while their value is at its highest.

If they continue to improve, which they may do (lets face it, that's the reason other teams are reported to be interested) then we run the substantial risk of losing our better players on a free. With a year to go on their deal, the player knows that there is no real incentive to sign a new deal, and certainly not at that stage. Their agents are probably already in private contact with other clubs and they know that it is only six months before they can 'legally' speak to other clubs. If we're gambling on them signing a new deal next summer, I'd be concerned.