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« on: 03 June 2010, 12:48 PM »

Paper talk keeps linking Muamba to City for £10 million.

He was pretty bobbins under Megson but Coyle seems to be getting the best out of him right now.

 I can't see a £10 million bid happening myself but if an offer came - would you snatch their hand off, or decline gracefully?
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« Reply #1 on: 03 June 2010, 12:53 PM »

Stay, thats a no brainer, our most improved player last season by far and showing how big a part of the team he is.
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« Reply #2 on: 03 June 2010, 12:55 PM »

It's a tough one again. It's a double your money offer for him and City have some decent players we may be able to part ex.

That said, he has played well this season (even under Megson), especially under Coyle. He is one of the first names on the teamsheet now.

Dunno. For £10m, I'd probably sell as it's too much to turn down, but I cannot see such an offer happening. I wouldn't sell him for any less and I didn't see myself saying that at the start of the season.
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« Reply #3 on: 03 June 2010, 12:58 PM »

If it is true i would demand more than 10mill for a 1st team regular and plus if they want him so much im sure we could hold out for more than 10mill for a player i think will be pushing for the england side in the next world cup.
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« Reply #4 on: 03 June 2010, 12:59 PM »

If they are using the MEN to sound out a 10mil bid then they will pay 15mil.  At that price I'd sell faster than you can shove a greased up pig through an industrial heating duct (welcome to the Prem, Ian Holloway).  I like Muamba but there are other players we could spend 10-15mil on.......sounds like made-up nonsense to me though.
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« Reply #5 on: 03 June 2010, 01:00 PM »

As it's City, we should be able to jack up the price substantially. Everyone else has!
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« Reply #6 on: 03 June 2010, 01:02 PM »

I really rate him but £10 million is the most you would expect for him so I would sell him on that basis, it is unfortunate but any kind of silly offer like that we must take if we are to improve the team.  That £10 million could be spend on 2 £5 million players in different positions or 3 £3 million plus players etc.
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« Reply #7 on: 03 June 2010, 01:09 PM »

For £10million i'd sell. Not a penny less though.
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« Reply #8 on: 03 June 2010, 01:14 PM »

If we could get £30m for both Muamba and Cahill, that would give Owen a sizeable transfer kitty to rebuild the squad. True, we would be losing our two better and brightest prospects but you'd hope that Coyle could bring in new prospects with the money raised. Ideally you want to keep your best players, but we don't live in an ideal world sadly, especially when it comes to football.

I think we could get £15m out of City, again IF the rumnours are true.
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« Reply #9 on: 03 June 2010, 01:25 PM »

50 million or no deal.

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« Reply #10 on: 03 June 2010, 01:29 PM »

Its a tricky one, but for 10 million we have to sell.  He is a fantastic tackler, and has an aamzing amount of energy, but I feel that if he did move to city, his shooting and passing weaknesses would both be exposed.  However, I think that this is all paper talk, as City have two good defensive midfielders in Barry and De Jong, not forgetting Vincent Kompany.  They do not need him, but if an offer came in for 10, then obviously we should try and push it up a bit but otherwise, the combined money of a cahill and muamba sale could go quite a way to helping coyle reshape and re build the squad.  This begs another question though, if we could keep one of these two, which would it be?
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« Reply #11 on: 03 June 2010, 01:32 PM »

If im being honest i don't see anybody coming in for cahill or muamba going this summer.
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« Reply #12 on: 03 June 2010, 01:35 PM »

If im being honest i don't see anybody coming in for cahill or muamba going this summer.

To be honest, neither do I. Now is the last real chance we'll get big money for them though.
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« Reply #13 on: 03 June 2010, 01:39 PM »

To be honest, neither do I. Now is the last real chance we'll get big money for them though.

With cahill not going to the world cup and him missing a part of last season i just think clubs might be put off by a 15mill price tag.

If arsenal sell fabregas i can't see us getting wilshere either, but they would probably buy a replacement if they did sell him.
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« Reply #14 on: 03 June 2010, 01:45 PM »

True, but next summer they'll oth be entering their final years of their contracts so we'll struggle to get half as much.

I don't think that any potential Fabregas sale will impact of Wilshere to be honest. He is nowhere near good enough for the Arsenal first team (he needs to remember he has a right foot for a start).

Arsenal fans would have a fit if they sold their captain and relied on a player who had never played a Premiership game for them. 
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« Reply #15 on: 03 June 2010, 01:45 PM »

I like Muamba and sometimes I feel he doesn't get the recognition that he deserves. However if a double digit offer did come in then we will take it as I get the feeling that Coyle wont have huge sums of money to spend this summer, and the money raised will go towards the kitty!
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« Reply #16 on: 03 June 2010, 01:49 PM »

In the unlikley scenario Muamba is sold to city for 10mill I think we may have cover for him in Sean Davis, Stu Holden and if we sign him again Wilishere so i would put that to a good striker who is proven to score goals, who that is i don't know but that's what i would do.
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« Reply #17 on: 03 June 2010, 02:35 PM »

Problem with Bolton, we could have 25+ million from selling Cahill and Muamba, but we wouldn't be able to attract better players.

Let's build our team around our better players, we sell now we might as-well say next season could be relegation. I know on the flip side we could find another bargain lump of coal that turns into a diamond like Lee Chung-Yong but I don't think we are an attractive club for players who are still in contract and worth 10-15 million.
I also understand that they could walk away for free when contracts expire, but I would not like to see Bolton without Muamba or Cahill because our 1st team will not improve.

I also realise we are a small/feeder/selling club and money is very important, but the way I look at it, which may be wrong, is if we do sell our most valuable assets, what does that do to the team[that earn points]. The last 3 seasons we have struggled to stay up, relegation has been a very likely outcome, I think we could lose more money making the 1st team weaker through dropping down a league, than actually taking the money now.

Muamba will not be @ City, he's good and had a great season, but I think City can do better, and don't they already have players like De Jong and Barry? But then City can afford to have players to sit on the bench or in the stands.

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« Reply #18 on: 03 June 2010, 02:56 PM »

Diddle.  The big clubs need to sign English players to meet the new regulations.  That means that there may well be interest in Cahill and Muamba and that we can get a premium price for them.
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« Reply #19 on: 03 June 2010, 03:04 PM »

Diddle.  The big clubs need to sign English players to meet the new regulations.  That means that there may well be interest in Cahill and Muamba and that we can get a premium price for them.

That's a valid point az, but still doesn't change my mind.
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« Reply #20 on: 03 June 2010, 03:20 PM »

This is a joke thread started by a mod with too much time on his hands.

City signing Muamba? Ha ha.

Some of you are so gullable it's scary.
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« Reply #21 on: 03 June 2010, 04:24 PM »

This is a joke thread started by a mod with too much time on his hands.

City signing Muamba? Ha ha.

Some of you are so gullable it's scary.

Yawn.
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« Reply #22 on: 03 June 2010, 04:37 PM »

This is a joke thread started by a mod with too much time on his hands.

City signing Muamba? Ha ha.

Some of you are so gullable it's scary.


I saw the story elsewhere - so discussing it doesn't make me "gullable", I think. I wouldn't sell unless I already had an offer accepted for another player who I felt was both cheaper and better. This is because I expect Muamba to improve and as an Englishman, if he does he will be worth more than 10 mil very soon.
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« Reply #23 on: 03 June 2010, 06:54 PM »

Bite their hand off!! Not that there's the remotest chance it's a reliable story.
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« Reply #24 on: 03 June 2010, 07:07 PM »

Won't be true. De Jong, Barry and even Kompany are far more accomplished players who can play the role.

I'd be very much mixed on this were it a reliable or believable story. On one hand, double your money for 1 very good season 1 awful season and getting double figures for a limited(although fantastic at what he does) would be very good. However, at the same time, we bring in a good young player, selling him at the first offer wouldn't exactly send out the right  message in terms of ambition.

Diddle.  The big clubs need to sign English players to meet the new regulations.  That means that there may well be interest in Cahill and Muamba and that we can get a premium price for them.

Don't really think it'll be much of an issue personally. Take Arsenal for example, who would probably be the most  thought of as having foreigners and no English players, but with homegrown not really being linked to nationality it doesn't really effect them much;

Squad of 25. 8 must be 'homegrown';

Mannone, Campbell, Clichy, Gibbs, Eastmond, A.Traore, Wilshere, Ramsey, Fabregas, Song, Denilson, Walcott, Vela, Bendtner.

Would all fall under homegrown rules.
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