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« on: 11 May 2010, 12:05 AM »

Football League First Division: 1909-1910

pts - team
53 - Aston Villa
48 - Liverpool
45 - Blackburn Rovers
45 - Newcastle United
45 - Manchester United
42 - Sheffield United
42 - Bradford City
41 - Sunderland
40 - Notts County
40 - Everton
39 - The Wednesday
35 - Preston North End
33 - Bury
33 - Nottingham Forest
32 - Tottenham Hotspur
32 - Bristol City
31 - Middlesbrough
31 - Woolwich Arsenal
29 - Chelsea
24 - Bolton Wanderers


F.A. Premier League: 2009-2010

http://www.premierleague.com/page/LeagueTables

What a difference 100 years makes! Cool
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« Reply #1 on: 11 May 2010, 12:13 AM »

Quite a difference in points needed to win the title with only 53 back then.

I'm Sure Sluffy remembers those days very well
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« Reply #2 on: 11 May 2010, 12:15 AM »

SOMERVILLE OUT! Negative bastard.
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« Reply #3 on: 11 May 2010, 12:19 AM »

"The Wednesday" - great name for a club! Certainly better than "Woolwich Arsenal"!
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« Reply #4 on: 11 May 2010, 12:24 AM »

Quite a difference in points needed to win the title with only 53 back then.

I'm Sure Sluffy remembers those days very well

Steady on - I'm old but not that old!

I do however remember Swansea when they were called Town (and not City), Bournemouth and Boscombe Athletic, and Third Lanark though!
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« Reply #5 on: 11 May 2010, 04:37 AM »

The reason the points tally was so low is because back then you got 2 points for a win and 1 point for a draw.


Some of the History of the Laws of the Game:


1891: Introduction of the penalty-kick.
1958: Substitutes are permitted for the first time, albeit only for an injured goalkeeper and one other injured player.
1970: The system of red and yellow cards is introduced for the 1970 FIFA World Cup ™ finals.

Added time was introduced because of an incident which happened in 1891 during a match between Stoke and Aston Villa. Trailing 1–0 and with just two minutes remaining, Stoke were awarded a penalty. Villa's goalkeeper kicked the ball out of the ground, and by the time the ball had been recovered, the 90 minutes had elapsed and the game was over.

Substitutions:

"...Relatively unheard of until the second half of the twentieth century. On 11th October 1953,...Germany and Saarland, a German player named Horst Eckel became the first substitute under new rules from FIFA which allowed substitutions (previously, injured players would simply leave the field of play and their team would play the rest of the match with fewer players than the opposition, or the player would have to continue to play regardless of the injury, or if it was a goalkeeper who had sustained an arm injury, he would have to play outfield for the rest of the match).

The Football League...first permitted substitutions in the 1965/1966 season, although the ruling authorised just one substitution per team, and a substitution could only be used to replace an injured player - not for solely tactical reasons. Starting from the 1967/1968, the regulations were relaxed so that solely tactical substitutions become allowable.

On August 21, 1965, Keith Peacock of Charlton Athletic became the first substitute used in a League match when he replaced the injured goalkeeper Mike Ross eleven minutes into a league match away to Bolton Wanderers F.C..


In later years, the number of substitutes permitted in Football League matches has gradually increased.  In the UK, the Premier League increased the number 1996."

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« Reply #6 on: 11 May 2010, 08:47 AM »

You were on top form last night with the threads Craig, how anybody can claim you are boring is beyond me.
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« Reply #7 on: 11 May 2010, 05:43 PM »

Added time was introduced because of an incident which happened in 1891 during a match between Stoke and Aston Villa. Trailing 1–0 and with just two minutes remaining, Stoke were awarded a penalty. Villa's goalkeeper kicked the ball out of the ground, and by the time the ball had been recovered, the 90 minutes had elapsed and the game was over.

I bet Fergie was at that match!
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« Reply #8 on: 11 May 2010, 07:07 PM »

I bet Fergie was at that match!

I think the Duke of York would have something to say about that.
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« Reply #9 on: 11 May 2010, 07:38 PM »

Bloody hell there's some right old sods on here...
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« Reply #10 on: 11 May 2010, 11:57 PM »

Bloody hell there's some right old sods on here...

How I'm not even 20 yet, give it a few months but still not 20.
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« Reply #11 on: 12 May 2010, 05:21 AM »

Bloody hell there's some right old sods on here...


Define "old sods"!

I'm 55 and I do remember when it was still 2 points for a win.  I also remember when there was only one substitution.

If you look at old pictures, the goalies didn't wear gloves but caught that big, heavy (even heavier when wet) leather ball with their bare hands.
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« Reply #12 on: 12 May 2010, 09:35 AM »

If you look at old pictures, the goalies didn't wear gloves but caught that big, heavy (even heavier when wet) leather ball with their bare hands.

Ee bah gum them were the days when men were men and pansies were flowers.
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« Reply #13 on: 12 May 2010, 10:48 AM »

I also remember when there was only one substitution.

With Blackpool in the play-off final, we'll be hearing a lot about the so-called 'Matthews Final' again ..... a game where we needed at least one sub, if not more. (Watched it on TV - sort of).
If I remember rightly, I was on Burnden for the game against Charlton and the first League sub ever.
If anyone's talking 'owd sods', I reckon I qualify in spades.
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« Reply #14 on: 12 May 2010, 12:23 PM »

I prefer the "old sods" who remember much more than I can. I hate it when I talk about Burnden Park and younger fans look at me with a blank look because they never saw the days before Jay-Jay Okocha and Youri Djorkaeff. I'm only 23 but it makes me feel old myself! Somebody please remind me what the Wembley trips in '86 and '89 were like again!
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« Reply #15 on: 12 May 2010, 12:55 PM »

I prefer the "old sods" who remember much more than I can. I hate it when I talk about Burnden Park and younger fans look at me with a blank look because they never saw the days before Jay-Jay Okocha and Youri Djorkaeff. I'm only 23 but it makes me feel old myself! Somebody please remind me what the Wembley trips in '86 and '89 were like again!

86? 89? What the fcúk is a Burnden Park? Dont you mean New Wembley?
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« Reply #16 on: 12 May 2010, 01:27 PM »


Define "old sods"!

I'm 55 and I do remember when it was still 2 points for a win.  I also remember when there was only one substitution.

If you look at old pictures, the goalies didn't wear gloves but caught that big, heavy (even heavier when wet) leather ball with their bare hands.
And ive still got imprints like old stich`s from the lace used to tie the bladder in.
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« Reply #17 on: 12 May 2010, 01:44 PM »

Was talking to some 'yoof' at Brum away a few years back, I started going on about the atmosphere in Burnden Park and they were looking at me like I was a senile old man!

Wembley 1991 was where it was at, wish I'd have been younger as the older lads looked to be having fun chasing Tranmere fans all over Wembley Way.
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« Reply #18 on: 12 May 2010, 02:06 PM »

Wembley 1991 was where it was at, wish I'd have been younger as the older lads looked to be having fun chasing Tranmere fans all over Wembley Way.
And some girls too  Wink
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« Reply #19 on: 12 May 2010, 04:28 PM »

And some girls too  Wink

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« Reply #20 on: 17 May 2010, 02:44 AM »

On August 21, 1965, Keith Peacock of Charlton Athletic became the first substitute used in a League match when he replaced the injured goalkeeper Mike Ross eleven minutes into a league match away to Bolton Wanderers F.C..



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That was the bit of trivia Sluffy told me about and I haven't got around to posting it.
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