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« Reply #25 on: 06 May 2010, 11:48 PM »

As Gordon Brown said in the 2nd debate - "Get real". Owen is here to stay and it feels like a massive weight has been lifted off the supporters' shoulders with him replacing Megson.

Exactly my point. Bolton could have appointed Nick Griffin as manager to replace Megson and he'd have been welcomed with open arms by the Bolton fans.

But the fact is he got less points than Megson, we have less fight and passion than ever, and we have become the team everyone (except West Ham) wants to play.

10 games in next season you'll all be begging for Micky Adams.
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« Reply #26 on: 06 May 2010, 11:50 PM »

Exactly my point. Bolton could have appointed Nick Griffin as manager to replace Megson and he'd have been welcomed with open arms by the Bolton fans.

But the fact is he got less points than Megson, we have less fight and passion than ever, and we have become the team everyone (except West Ham) wants to play.

10 games in next season you'll all be begging for Micky Adams.

After Owen Coyle, Nick Griffin would be my choice of manager.
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« Reply #27 on: 07 May 2010, 12:22 AM »

How can we have less fight in the team with 5 clean sheets compared to 0? If anything you can get at the reduction in the goals tally but I think we demonstrated at Stoke we have some fight in us, and the determination to stay up shows enough spirit for me ... for now.
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« Reply #28 on: 07 May 2010, 11:58 PM »

I didnt like Coyle from day one. I always thought Burnley played shíte. I think Coyle has done nearly nothing since taking over. Its a send him back to burnley from me.

But im looking forward to next season. He has promised some attacking football, and i am expecting to see at the start of next season.
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« Reply #29 on: 08 May 2010, 12:17 AM »

I always thought Burnley played shíte?

Come on! They defied all odds by getting into this league, and before January they were playing brilliantly at home.

Please give me a full explanation as why you didn't like Coyle?
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« Reply #30 on: 08 May 2010, 03:31 AM »

Come on then Faroe let's hear your grand plan for the future of BWFC. It's all well and good saying "Taylor's rubbish. Coyle is crap." as you often do, but where's the alternative solution? Where's the bit where you show the way we should go to move forward? Or do you just fancy a bitch and a moan about anyone and everyone?
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« Reply #31 on: 08 May 2010, 12:27 PM »

Faroe Boy has already said he would replace Muamba with George 'red card' Boateng, I want to see some more genius decisions from the man himself
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« Reply #32 on: 08 May 2010, 12:50 PM »

It's always a shame when the great ones go through life unnoticed. I'm sure Faroe would have revolutionised football and no doubt acheived great things if it not been for a cruel twist of fate i.e. he's a fcuking dumb arse!
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« Reply #33 on: 08 May 2010, 02:50 PM »

Give the guy a break, he spends his Saturdays harpooning whales. Why the fcuk would he know anything about football?
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« Reply #34 on: 08 May 2010, 10:56 PM »

Natasha: Your efforts here at Burnden Aces are highly appreciated by me. Thank you. (No, really.)
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« Reply #35 on: 09 May 2010, 01:57 AM »

Im sorry to disapoint you. I dont remember anything from Coyle´s day at Bolton becuase i was 3-5 years old. So i have no real good reason to see him as god. Beside from some stunning cup games last season, i never think Burnley have played well. But i did enjoy see them beat man utd at home. And Boltons play have changed nothing from Megson to Coyle. The only difference i have seen are no negative fans screaming Megson out. So Bwfc4ewa that is my reason.

I dont got the solution Chirs, but i do have some thougts. Stop playing Taylor. because we can all agree he has had a poor season, and i have been thinking every game "why is Coyle not getting Gardner on the left wing". Coyle played almost the same team as Megson, why not try some changes, because there were players who really played shíte. Mark Davies, Al-Habsi, Gardner, Samuel, Riga, Weiss, AO´Brien. Why not give them chance, because they cant be any worse.

Of my time watching Bolton this season has been the worst. The points says it all. But also the lack of effort from many of the players have been worse. Keeping our creative players one the bench, keep blasting long balls at K.Davies, stay back and defend for 85mins. There is no doubt that this season has been the worst i have seen.
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« Reply #36 on: 09 May 2010, 06:43 AM »

Im sorry to disapoint you. I dont remember anything from Coyle´s day at Bolton becuase i was 3-5 years old. So i have no real good reason to see him as god. Beside from some stunning cup games last season, i never think Burnley have played well. But i did enjoy see them beat man utd at home. And Boltons play have changed nothing from Megson to Coyle. The only difference i have seen are no negative fans screaming Megson out. So Bwfc4ewa that is my reason.

I dont got the solution Chirs, but i do have some thougts. Stop playing Taylor. because we can all agree he has had a poor season, and i have been thinking every game "why is Coyle not getting Gardner on the left wing". Coyle played almost the same team as Megson, why not try some changes, because there were players who really played shíte. Mark Davies, Al-Habsi, Gardner, Samuel, Riga, Weiss, AO´Brien. Why not give them chance, because they cant be any worse.

Of my time watching Bolton this season has been the worst. The points says it all. But also the lack of effort from many of the players have been worse. Keeping our creative players one the bench, keep blasting long balls at K.Davies, stay back and defend for 85mins. There is no doubt that this season has been the worst i have seen.

We have tried to play the ball on the floor a bit more so your wrong with us playing no different than under megson and we have had to mostly the same things as under the previous manager as that incompetent wanker sammy lee showed what happens if you try and change thins too quickly.
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« Reply #37 on: 10 May 2010, 07:55 PM »

Faroe boy, Gardner has been injured hence why hes not been on the bench or team and i cant believe your actually stating we should give AOB a game? how can you slate any manager when you think he should be in a premier league team. As for this whole topic, its rubbish. Coyle has got so much more out of the players than megson did. For example Knight rubbish under megson, under coyle brilliant. The fact is hes playing under MEGSONS team, give him chance to implement his new style of play! Absolutely unbelievable that some fans are slating him already.
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« Reply #38 on: 10 May 2010, 10:58 PM »

Faroe boy, Gardner has been injured hence why hes not been on the bench or team and i cant believe your actually stating we should give AOB a game? how can you slate any manager when you think he should be in a premier league team. As for this whole topic, its rubbish. Coyle has got so much more out of the players than megson did. For example Knight rubbish under megson, under coyle brilliant. The fact is hes playing under MEGSONS team, give him chance to implement his new style of play! Absolutely unbelievable that some fans are slating him already.

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« Reply #39 on: 11 May 2010, 12:04 AM »

Absolutely unbelievable that some fans are slating him already.

I will slate him until i see some improving. I cant belive why you are saying we have improved since he took over. Its the same old garbage.
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« Reply #40 on: 11 May 2010, 12:07 AM »

Why not give him a chance before you slate him?
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« Reply #41 on: 11 May 2010, 12:15 AM »

Why not give him a chance before you slate him?

He has had since januar, and a transfer window. Maybie i just expectet to much from him.

Im looking forward to see what he will do in the summer, because he has promised better football.
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« Reply #42 on: 11 May 2010, 12:16 AM »


Yes I think you expected to much to soon.
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« Reply #43 on: 11 May 2010, 12:17 AM »

What would represent a decent season for you next season FB?

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« Reply #44 on: 11 May 2010, 12:25 AM »

After that 2-2 draw against Hull @ the Reebok, I thought we we're going down, Coyle's job was to keep us up, we have done that, and won important games against clubs around us.

It's not even Coyle's side, he's playing with what he has, yes he had January to bring new faces, but with no funds or players available he had to bring in some loans, Wilshere has improved us, Holden looks promising[but hardly had time to show us more because of a broken leg] and Weiss has provided a few good moments of skill and a few assists.

We have played some good football, given teams like Arsenal, Chelsea Man Utd and Man City real games, until stupid mistakes happened from the players, not Owen's fault. We have had a few bad performances like Blackburn away and letting Pompey get a draw for example, a lot of things have gone against us under Coyle, remember the Davies disallowed goal against Fulham? these things can give confidence but to many times players have made stupid mistakes or the refs have cheated/denied us goals.

The atmosphere is better, the mentality will get better and Owen will improve us, he will need time, it will be his team almost after the summer signings and that, and then judge him, it's been up and down but for me the positives outweigh the negatives, and considering what this club was like under Megson, I look at what we have achieved under Coyle as a good base to build for next season, survival and a better feel about our club.

Of course everyone would want instant change and us playing like Barcelona, but give it a year or two and we'll soon be challenging for the title !!!! I joke, but I would say and guess the football and the club will be for the better with someone like Coyle rather than someone like Megson.

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« Reply #45 on: 11 May 2010, 12:29 AM »

What would represent a decent season for you next season FB?


Some better football. More attacking and not defending for 85 mins and play long balls at Davies the whole game. I would like to see more passing the ball around, instead of out to the wing back and than give it away. Than i would not be boored to death watching a game.
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« Reply #46 on: 11 May 2010, 12:47 AM »

Fair point. I think we've improved a little in that respect since Coyle came in but there is still a lot more room for improvement- that will hopefully come with his own players.
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« Reply #47 on: 11 May 2010, 12:59 AM »

Have we really been defending for 85 minutes though in games under Coyle? I think we still resort to long balls and that, but that's because the mentality and what the players have trained to do for ages[ even under BSA]

Let Coyle get his style of players and I think we will see more variety, I don't expect much change, but I think we have seen it already, maybe not enough to some people liking, but we have scored some very nice goals and beaten teams we had to.

Take the Stoke away game for example, we we're embarrassing 1st half, worst I've seen for a long time from Bolton, so many mistakes, bad passes and no chances at all, then we came out 2nd half and went for it, created chances and snatched the win, it's been like that under Coyle, good and bad with loads of individual mistakes and bad ref decisions throw in.

Give him a chance, and maybe you're belief will be rewarded with at least a decent percentage of what you/we all want. We had the change we wanted and if we went down it would have been a disaster for the club, we are still in the Prem and have a positive manager with a good philosophy who I believe can put words and his own style into action and get us playing a promising game.

He will need help from the board and the fans, but he will have to deliver, next season judge him, if things are not improved and things  don't look good, then let that be the time to talk if he's doing a good job, he ticks the boxes and for a club like us, he's very much as good as we can hope for.

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« Reply #48 on: 11 May 2010, 01:15 AM »

LMFAO!!! This topic is rubbish!

Faroe-boy if you think we should get rid of Coyle because the way we play hasn't changed over night you are IDIOT.

I think some people have short memories of how much of a mess we were in; not just the team but the whole club for the last 6 months of the Megson era.

Coyle has not only kept the team in the premier league; using his charisma and enthusiasm he has managed to unite the fans and make rapid progression in repairing the damage that Megson left between BWFC and the fans; a example of this is the Q&A sessions he holds (Megson refused to do any of these during his reign).

In regards to the team and whats going on on the pitch; Coyle's job really only starts NOW. I really hope he gets the chance to bring in about 5-7 of his own players to put his stamp on the team and manages to get rid of the deadwood and the Megson 'their turd but they put in a shift' players.

Im praying Coyle gets this transfer window right because if he does I believe we can start to push up the league in the next few seasons and in Owen Coyle we have one of the leagues most promising managers.
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« Reply #49 on: 11 May 2010, 04:42 PM »

But you see Faroe the way we play IS changing. I don't want to keep harping on about you not going because some people just can't go for whatever reason and I'm not here to judge you on that. But if you don't go then I'm afraid your comments about the style of play aren't that relevant. It's harsh to say Coyle hasn't changed the style of play at all, we don't really play the 'Davies ball' anymore or certainly not at home.

But even away, while you have to take the results into context aswell, the way we took the game to Arsenal, to City, and tried our level best with Chelsea, is proof that he is changing things. Alright sometimes it'll end in a 4-0 hammering. But I'd rather take the chance of it being a shock 1-1 draw rather than just accept we'll lose, sit in for 90 mins, and inevitably lose 1-0 or 2-0 like we did under Megson.
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