Not Taylor made for Coyle?

[Sluffy]

Ok, he can take a mean free kick - but so to can Weiss, he's fast (well faster than me) but isn't as quick as Ricardo.  He's got a few tricks but Lee as got a bag full, and he's young but not as precocious as young Wilshire!

So does he stay in the team or make way - and for whom?

[DannyW]

On the basis that he's been terrible pretty much all season, then there's no reason for him to be in the team at the moment. Apparently he's one of our main goal threats but that isnt showing at the moment (I think Elmander has just as many this season and must have started like 1/4 of the games) and as for his 'mean' free kicks, 9/10 hit the wall or fly over the bar!

Weiss should be in for me, next time he's available that is, till then Gardner or Wilshere.

[Faroe-boy]

Gardner for me. As DannyW says Taylor has been terrible preet much all season, and Gardner is way faster and more creative.

[Squidgy]

You'd be better placing him as a defensive midfielder. Can't shoot for toffee, but a top man on a dead ball

[Howfen White]

We've got no-one else in the team capable of kicking a ball or taking a set piece, so for now he has to be in the team. Until we get someone else who can actually do both these simple footballing skills, then he has to be in.

[DannyW]

You'd be better placing him as a defensive midfielder. Can't shoot for toffee, but a top man on a dead ball

I wish he'd show it more often. Alls ive seen him doing lately is hitting the first man on corners and hitting the wall with his free kicks.

[Sluffy]

We've got no-one else in the team capable of kicking a ball or taking a set piece, so for now he has to be in the team. Until we get someone else who can actually do both these simple footballing skills, then he has to be in.

You sure?

About 2 min 15 secs in on this -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu-p9LiHot0

[Manny]

I wish he'd show it more often. Alls ive seen him doing lately is hitting the first man on corners and hitting the wall with his free kicks.

Lee does exactly the same thing but nobody bats an eyelid about it. It's been said in the past, our best corner taker is probably Gavin McCann! 

[Shaft]

This one is a no brainer. Matty Taylor doesn't deserve his place in the team. I am worried whether Taylor may have put a clause in his contract that if he is fit he has to start - because he left Portsmouth after never getting a look in.
He's playing very poorly and when you think Weiss who is very highly rated by people and is going to be a top player, it just baffles me why he is not playing instead of Taylor. I'd happily have Gardner playing instead of Taylor. Remember last season when Gardner was on the pitch, we looked a totally different team, he was attack minded, he got in great positions, he made good runs. Taylor is just not doing it.

Owen Coyle has got to shake things up.

[azreal88]

Coyle has no real option right now.  You can't start players who are not match fit.  Weiss and Wilshere don't really have any games between them this season and Ricky, though a decent player, does struggle to finish games these days.  Weiss will be getting fitter and fitter with these little cameos and, hopefully, his confidence will improve as he shows good displays.  I do worry about Coyle though.  For all his talk of giving everyone a chance he hasn't done it.  He's stuck with the same players and even today when at home we didn't go 4-4-2 and give Elmander the chance he was promised.  I don't have an issue with tactics but he is starting to come across as all-talk in certain aspects.

However, one thing Coyle has done (and this is surprising to me) is organise the defensive unit.  People have said that Megson would have kept two clean sheets at home but I would dispute that.  Knight and the rest looked lost under Megson this season and Muamba was a shadow of the player he has the ability to be in front of the back 4.  Under Coyle the defenders look like they know what their jobs are and they have some confidence back.  Knight looked international class today for the first time since he joined us and Muamba was superb all-round.

I said before the game that if Taylor started today we would struggle on both flanks not just the left and we wouldn't do enough.  Lee was very quiet and Taylor, once again, did nothing.  If we can sort out the balance of the squad then we will pick up points.  Hull's powerful forwards dominated City's weak defence yesterday and we have to go out and bully them at their place.  If we sit back, they'll kill us.  If we get at them, as Coyle keeps saying he likes to do, then we may get some of the luck that deserted us.

[Sir N Lofthouse]

Coyle has no real option right now.  You can't start players who are not match fit.  Weiss and Wilshere don't really have any games between them this season and Ricky, though a decent player, does struggle to finish games these days.  Weiss will be getting fitter and fitter with these little cameos and, hopefully, his confidence will improve as he shows good displays.  I do worry about Coyle though.  For all his talk of giving everyone a chance he hasn't done it.  He's stuck with the same players and even today when at home we didn't go 4-4-2 and give Elmander the chance he was promised.  I don't have an issue with tactics but he is starting to come across as all-talk in certain aspects.

However, one thing Coyle has done (and this is surprising to me) is organise the defensive unit.  People have said that Megson would have kept two clean sheets at home but I would dispute that.  Knight and the rest looked lost under Megson this season and Muamba was a shadow of the player he has the ability to be in front of the back 4.  Under Coyle the defenders look like they know what their jobs are and they have some confidence back.  Knight looked international class today for the first time since he joined us and Muamba was superb all-round.

I said before the game that if Taylor started today we would struggle on both flanks not just the left and we wouldn't do enough.  Lee was very quiet and Taylor, once again, did nothing.  If we can sort out the balance of the squad then we will pick up points.  Hull's powerful forwards dominated City's weak defence yesterday and we have to go out and bully them at their place.  If we sit back, they'll kill us.  If we get at them, as Coyle keeps saying he likes to do, then we may get some of the luck that deserted us.

Do you not think is was the fact that Fulham had, johnson out, Zamora and Dempsy out so that meant the strikers where the awful Nevland and that Rasiak lookalike elm, and a defender Running round like a clueless headless chicken? Also the fact that there they have only won 1 game away all season and that was on the opening day?

Oh wait and theres Burnley, who had there two playmakers subbed due to injury in the first 20 mins, so they had nothing going through the middle, at one point there formation was 4 2 4 and just smashing it in the box hoping, oh and these are the worst away team in the premiership, they have conceeded an average of 3 a game away.

What about the 8 we conceeded in 3 games and only scored 2?

Iv told you a million times its not the defence thats the problem, its the pressure on the defence when other teams go attack minded after we score, we have no outlet that means they have no breathing space.

[azreal88]

Naturally the quality of the opposition has a huge bearing.  However, Megson failed to keep a clean sheet regardless of the quality of the opposition.  There were diabolical attacking displays in there too.....but we still conceded each game.

[Sir N Lofthouse]

Your comment about Muamba is hilarious, he has been awesome since he has been at the club, the fact he has worked with players like Cohen, Taylor and Mccan in the middle is the reason why you have seen him give the ball away, Mark Davies pointed where we wanted the ball everytime muamba had it, therefore it made it an easy pass, he isnt going to score 30 yard screamers and isnt going to spread 40 yard passes around the pitch.

This is a forum not an English Exam, i dont use spell check and write my posts quick without checking.  Therefore mistakes will happen, im here to talk football and football only, not spelling mistakes, im not the best speller so accept it.

[Sir N Lofthouse]

Naturally the quality of the opposition has a huge bearing.  However, Megson failed to keep a clean sheet regardless of the quality of the opposition.  There were diabolical attacking displays in there too.....but we still conceded each game.

We also scored in nearly everygame apart from 4 i think.  The only time we have took a hammering this season is of Chelsea and Villa, the fact we have a mixed bag on the pitch isnt helping nothing, i have no doubt if we where playing a decent team yesterday we would of been battered.

First thing i would of said to Davies, go on Chris bird, he is 5 ft 8 and you'll win every header, just head it diagonally into the box.  Then i would tell Cohen, Mark Davies and Lee to run into the box, thats the only way we would of scored yesterday by doing something productive, the only other way we would of scored is a set piece, or a lucky bounce in the first 75 mins, when Elmander and Wiess come on we was running behind there defence and passing it in their half.

I see you all having a go at Elmander for missing that chance, who made the run, Elmander a few minutes later chested it spun a player and played a cracking ball in the box for Davies to run on too, where was Davies? on the edge of the box stood there like a fcuking Lemon.

[Sir N Lofthouse]

I also remember another incedent where Robinson pushed up near the end, he had the ball at feet on the left flank, there where bags of space inside, Cohen and Davies where 10 yards from this space and 2 yards apart from each other, between them none of them had the brain to jog in that space and help robinson out, Robinson then pointed to space, looked at Cohen and Davie, shook his head and passed the ball back to Muamba.

I only Badger on about it because its a MASSIVE problem.  If i had a car and the Engine was missing id be talking about it everyday (if it wasnt in my power to sort it out), if my car had a scratch on i would only talk about it when i could afford to fix it.

Get used to me typing about 'our mix bag' because im not going to pretend its been fixed, its a huge problem and if it isnt fixed we will be going down.  Challenge my comments, ignore them or just dont read them.

[luczka]

Maybe dropping him could be the kick up the arse he needs. Ricardo would the best option in there IMO. Pacey, can take a man on.
Remember at one point yesterday in the first half, Fulham attacked and Taylor was legging it back, just inside our own half to the penalty area and he was blowing out of his arse. He looked shattered.

[DannyW]

Lee does exactly the same thing but nobody bats an eyelid about it. It's been said in the past, our best corner taker is probably Gavin McCann!  

Lee's set pieces are normally even worse but he seems to get the job on the basis of being right footed. Unlike Taylor though, he isnt in the team just for his set pieces and offers alot more from open play.

And depressingly enough, you're right about McCann

[Didledee]

Lee's freekick for Davies's 'goal' was better than what Taylor has produced recently.

Taylor had a freekick from about 25-30 yards yesterday, and he hit it straight in the wall.

He scored against Burnley but his set pieces are getting worse, i don't understand why he's starting, on form he's a good player to have [not free play], but not that on his current form. When he 1st came to Bolton he would get quite a few powerful shots in, all i see him do now is hesitate and do little side foot volleys when he's in the wrong position.

[BoltonMad2oo8]

Gardner should be in for Taylor on the left but I would play Wiess & Wilshere to when they can instead of Cohen & Lee.

Lee, Cohen & Taylor were poor yesterday and Cohen and Taylor has been for months, Lee just seems very lazy too. Dont get me wrong he's a great finisher but his crosses and corners are poor and he doesnt want to attack full backs.

I like to see two wingers who wanna go forwards and quickly, paces scares defenses and adds a different dimension. We cant score or create a lot at the minute and as well as hopefully offering K.Davies & Klasnic a bit more, it might make the opposition and panic too and force errors.

I'd have Wilshere on too because well we dont have players who are comfortable on the ball, Muamba will work well with him because thats what Fab needs, someone to take the ball of him after he has chased, harassed and won the ball! I think that midfield would actually be very very lethal to us!

The defence seems a bit tighther now! Cahill is solid always, Steinsson & Knight have booked up to and Klasnic is not too bad up top either so looking at it there, its a pretty decent 11!

[BoltonMad2oo8]

Also forgot to mention, anybody hear the roar that went up when Taylor was taken off!

With that and things like this poll in mind, wonder how long he has left! The fans are growing tired and possibly the management may do too.

[luczka]

He probably thought he was getting a standing ovation.

[aarons2009]

I think people are being hard on taylor when we first got him he wasnt scoring but when he did he got some confidence and played well, he isnt as bad as your making out just needs some confidence.